I don't have a Braille sense either. if I get back to work, I'll save my 
shekels 
for a Packmate which has a pocket version of windows media player.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kane Brolin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: MLB game day audio and BrailleSense


> On 3/4/08, Gary G Schindler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I was able to listen to the Phillies and Pirates successfully yesterday.
>
> Gary, did you try this on your Braille Sense?  I'm curious to see
> whether this will work on a Braille Sense, BrailleNote, PAC Mate, or
> (alternatively) an Icon.  I haven't yet obtained one of these devices,
> but plan to do so rather soon.  It would be fun to have portable
> access to MLB's media player through a wifi connection in the house.
>>
>> everything is back to normal now. the only thing worth mentioning is I lost
>> my feed when browsing to another site on the internet. I was looking at some
>> podcasts and my window disappeared, thus my audio was gone.
>
> This does happen sometimes.  But I've not found that the MLB player
> window is highly unstable.  It usually stays with me as long as I want
> it.
>>
>> When the ball clubs do webcasts, I wish the audio wouldn't sound so damn
>> cheap.
>
> I guess that's why we pay around $15 for the entire season of just
> audio feeds, while those who want the television feed pay nearly $15
> each month.  There is a bandwidth difference.  To be fair, the reason
> why some of these audio feeds sound as though they were filtered or as
> though they went through a bad phone line, is because that is
> reflective of how the signal is fed into the radio stations carrying
> the games.  Even on HD radio, I doubt that you're getting CD-quality
> sound from the ballparks.  Most stations probably believe this is
> unnecessary, since MLB over-the-air broadcasts usually are aired on
> low-wattage talk or sports talk AM stations any more, not on great
> clear channel stations and certainly not on FM stereo stations.  I
> think this year's audio feeds from MLB.com are better than last
> year's.
>>
>> You gave a nice description of the various broadcast links.
>
> Thanks.  I did this in case someone else on the list has an issue with
> GameDay Audio in the future.
>
> One other thing to keep in mind:  MLB.com does not use the exact same
> media playing protocols for all feeds.  For example, there's no way to
> play archived daily fast casts or videos (as of interviews that were
> done for MLB Radio) if you're using JAWS.  You can get to these
> interview or headline feeds, but because they're all offered only
> using the SilverLight flash player, we as blind users have no way to
> activate those feeds' PLAY mechanism.  Fortunately, it is possible for
> us to receive live or archived audio feeds of games, because even
> though these are offered to us in SilverLight to start with, you can
> "switch to original media player."  It also is possible always to
> listen to the audio feed of Baseball Channel.TV, which airs programs
> such as "Staying Hot" and "Fantasy 411."  This apparently doesn't
> stream by default in SilverLight.
>
> One more final, final note:  If you delete your cookies in Internet
> Explorer, as I had to do yesterday for an unrelated reason, you'll
> have to opt for the original media player again next time you turn on
> a game feed.  As long as you don't delete cookies, you'll not have to
> make that selection each time; GameDay Audio will default to the
> original media player setting
> -Kane
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Kane Brolin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 5:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: MLB game day audio and BrailleSense
>>
>>
>> > On 3/2/08, Gary G Schindler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> I am glad you brought up the silver lite thing. somehow I was able to go
>> >> back and choose the classic media player.
>> >
>> > I heard from a tech support rep at Freedom Scientific today. He
>> > affirms that, as far as he knows, SilverLight is not accessible to
>> > JAWS. In fact, the program might have been developed specifically so
>> > that only a mouse could invoke the SilverLight player. (Thanks again
>> > for your "sensitivity" to access issues, Microsoft!)
>> >>
>> >> When I tried the silverlight thing, I was
>> >> told something about doing maintenance and to try later which didn't make
>> sense
>> >> at the time when I wanted to listen to a live ball game.
>> >
>> > Gary, I got that same message after switching from the SilverLight
>> > player to the classic media player and trying to listen to a game this
>> > past Friday. However, today I received some positive results: I
>> > loaded the GameDay Audio page, chose a feed I wanted to hear, logged
>> > in with my password, and realized that Internet Explorer had
>> > remembered my preference for the classic media player. I didn't have
>> > to select it again. And after getting past the security prompts, the
>> > game played just fine and with much better and more consistent audio
>> > quality than I had remembered from 2007.
>> >>
>> >> somehow I thought that I may have clicked on the TV feed by accident.
>> >
>> > During spring training, interestingly enough, some of those TV feeds
>> > actually are viewable by those who haven't paid the $14.99/month--or
>> > whatever it is--to watch the live TV games. MLB.com makes those
>> > available to us as a promotional thing, of course, so that people who
>> > benefit from the visuals will buy the MLB video package. You probably
>> > know that you can opt for a certain home team or road team audio feed
>> > just by clicking on the name of the flagship station where the program
>> > airs in the radio world. For instance, I caught part of the St.
>> > Louis-Washington game earlier today and was able to go straight to it
>> > by clicking on the link labeled WWWT, which is the name of the
>> > Washington Nationals' flagship station this season. Usually the video
>> > feeds, while not named after a station, are named by the type or speed
>> > of the Web stream: such as 750K or 400K.
>> > Happy listening. Play ball!
>> >
>> > -Kane
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "KANE BROLIN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <[email protected]>
>> >> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 5:51 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: MLB game day audio and BrailleSense
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > HHi, Gary and others.
>> >> >
>> >> > I've run MLB's GameDay Audio on a PC for ten years now. Just this year,
>> >> > I've discovered that MLB tends now to play most of its multimedia
>> content
>> >> > inside a Microsoft SilverLight frame--somewhat somilar to an Adobe
>> Flash
>> >> > Player frame, except it's Microsoft's proprietary flash player. Even on
>> a
>> >> > PC, this causes lots of problems if one is totally without eyesight and
>> >> > running a screen reader, because JAWS does not seem to recognize or
>> allow
>> >> me
>> >> > to invoke any of the buttons inside of the SilverLight frame with the
>> >> > keyboard. I've brought up this issue on the PC Audio Discussion List
>> >> > previously, and I've presented it to JAWS Tech Support too. No answer
>> as
>> >> > yet.
>> >> >
>> >> > You do have the option sometimes to make MLB's site honor your
>> preference
>> >> of
>> >> > going back to their "classic" media player, which seems to be just
>> Windows
>> >> > Media Player running inside a separate IE window. This works as long as
>> >> > MLB's multimedia sites are up and runnning.
>> >> >
>> >> > All this might cause a problem with Braille Sense. But since I've not
>> >> used
>> >> > a Braille Sense before, I regr3ettably can't help you there.
>> >> >
>> >> > -Kane
>> >> >
>> >> >
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