I can use Total Recorder but I don't gain the ability to record what I hear. 
Maybe I'm not understanding how to set it up with the Gateway.

Bob
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 2:27 AM
Subject: Re: sound editing?


> Wow! that is surprising that total recorder can't be used.
>
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>
> robert Doc Wright
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bobcat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 10:34 PM
> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>
>
>> Same thing here with my Gateway laptop.  SigmaTel High Definition Audio.
>> The record mixer has two mic inputs and CD but nothing like "what you
>> hear".
>> I don't even know what is connected to the second mic input.  Gateway 
>> sure
>> doesn't help. None of the programs like Total Recorder and Replay will
>> help,
>> even with their special drivers.
>>
>> I think the thing to do in this case is to get a USB sound card for my
>> laptop.
>>
>> Bob
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Doc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 2:16 AM
>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>
>>
>>>
>>> which Sigmatel card is that.  I just got this computer last June and the
>>> card in it is the "SigmaTel High Definition Audio CODEC
>>> and all it shows in the record section under properties is line-in and
>>> microphone.
>>>
>>> ******************************
>>> Very funny Scotty ... now beam down my clothes !
>>>
>>>
>>> robert Doc Wright
>>> http://www.wrightplaceinc.net
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>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Sunshine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 1:17 PM
>>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>
>>>
>>>> actually the newer sigmatel cards do have the stereo mix feature in 
>>>> them
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Doc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 1:55 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Not all soundcards have that feature.  Sigmantel doesn't have that
>>>>> feature
>>>>> so you willl need a program like total recorder.
>>>>>
>>>>> ******************************
>>>>> Very funny Scotty ... now beam down my clothes !
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> robert Doc Wright
>>>>> http://www.wrightplaceinc.net
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>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 5:10 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Garry, I have a DELL desktop computer with on-board sound.
>>>>>> I don't know where or how to find the what you hear or stereo mix
>>>>>> options,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Billy,
>>>>>> Dinky Doo
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 3:16 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> this is done with the what you hear or stereo mix options through
>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>> sound card.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 6:43 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bruce, I'm sure this is correct, but i don't understand how you can
>>>>>>>> play
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> backing track in winamp, & record in goldwave. are you saying: you
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> goldwave, you start recording in new sound file, then alt tab into
>>>>>>>> winamp,
>>>>>>>> and start the backing track, then alt tab back into goldwave and
>>>>>>>> start
>>>>>>>> singing, sorry but i cannot imagine how that would work,
>>>>>>>> Sorry about this,
>>>>>>>> Billy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 8:42 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Okay, let me see if I can do a bit of a better job here. I start
>>>>>>>>> Gold
>>>>>>>>> Wave recording. Then I switch into Winamp, start my file, and sing
>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>> vocal.. Then I go in and trim the beginning and end off the vocal,
>>>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>>> it's just typing sounds. Then I load the music track into Gold
>>>>>>>>> Wave.
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> copy the trimmed vocal track into the clipboard, and use control+m
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> mix it in with the music track. Preview really helps here because
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> can edit the precision of where you want it to start to within a
>>>>>>>>> thousandth of a second. When it's mixed, including volumes and so
>>>>>>>>> on,
>>>>>>>>> you save the track. This has the added benefit that you can add 
>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>> effects to your voice (reverb, for example, I use the Freeverb
>>>>>>>>> plugin
>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>> it provides better reverb than Gold Wave's) before mixing the 
>>>>>>>>> voice
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> the music, so you don't have to apply the effect to the background
>>>>>>>>> music
>>>>>>>>> as well.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bruce
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:52:30 -0000, "TrueBlue & Proud"
>>>>>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>>>>>>>>>> Bruce,
>>>>>>>>>> can you please explain how you achieved this?.
>>>>>>>>>> Do you go into Winamp, and play the backing track, and then go
>>>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>>>> goldwave
>>>>>>>>>> and put down the vocal in the new sound file function.
>>>>>>>>>> If they are playing separately, then how can you record the
>>>>>>>>>> finished
>>>>>>>>>> project?.
>>>>>>>>>> Aren't they in different programs, or am I missing something 
>>>>>>>>>> here,
>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> possible,
>>>>>>>>>> Billy,
>>>>>>>>>> Dinky Doo
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 7:38 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >I recorded the vocal track separately with Winamp playing the
>>>>>>>>>> >music
>>>>>>>>>> >track
>>>>>>>>>> > in the background, then I mixed the two togetehr using Gold
>>>>>>>>>> > Wave.
>>>>>>>>>> > There
>>>>>>>>>> > are other ways to do it, this is my prefered way.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Bruce
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > -- 
>>>>>>>>>> > Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name,
>>>>>>>>>> > he
>>>>>>>>>> > gave
>>>>>>>>>> > the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Bruce Toews
>>>>>>>>>> > Skype ID: o.canada
>>>>>>>>>> > E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger:
>>>>>>>>>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>>> > LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com
>>>>>>>>>> > Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
>>>>>>>>>> > http://www.ogts.net
>>>>>>>>>> > Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > On Sun, 2 Mar 2008, TrueBlue & Proud wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >> Bruce,good to know. This is what I want to do.
>>>>>>>>>> >> I want to be able to record my vocal track over the backing
>>>>>>>>>> >> track,
>>>>>>>>>> >> but
>>>>>>>>>> >> I
>>>>>>>>>> >> just can't get it to work.
>>>>>>>>>> >> I'm just wondering if it because my sound card is built in
>>>>>>>>>> >> sound
>>>>>>>>>> >> on
>>>>>>>>>> >> the
>>>>>>>>>> >> mother board.
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> Any help/tips to achieve this would be very helpful,
>>>>>>>>>> >> Billy
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>> >> From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>>> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>>>>> >> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 1:33 PM
>>>>>>>>>> >> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >>> I use GW for everything from one-track production to mixing 
>>>>>>>>>> >>> my
>>>>>>>>>> >>> radio
>>>>>>>>>> >>> shows
>>>>>>>>>> >>> together to recording my voice over a karaoke track.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>> Bruce
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>> --
>>>>>>>>>> >>> Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his
>>>>>>>>>> >>> name,
>>>>>>>>>> >>> he
>>>>>>>>>> >>> gave
>>>>>>>>>> >>> the right to become children of God.--John 1:12, NIV
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>> Bruce Toews
>>>>>>>>>> >>> Skype ID: o.canada
>>>>>>>>>> >>> E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger:
>>>>>>>>>> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>>> >>> LiveJournal: http://brucetola.livejournal.com
>>>>>>>>>> >>> Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries):
>>>>>>>>>> >>> http://www.ogts.net
>>>>>>>>>> >>> Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: 
>>>>>>>>>> >>> http://www.cornergas.com
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>> On Sat, 1 Mar 2008, Sarah wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> I produce my one track podcasts with gw and love it! I just
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> started
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> donig
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> this sometime last year.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Sarah Alawami
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> skype: marrie1
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Website;
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> www.marrie.org
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> To check out my podcast go to
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> http://feeds.feedburner.com/funfilled
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> For information on the list where you can discuss the 
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> podcast
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> check
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> out
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> http://tffp.marrie.org/mailman/listinfo/tffpdiscussionlist_tffp.marrie.org
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> "Tell me what you think, Captain, I'm all ears" - Spock
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 11:28 AM
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Subject: Re: sound editing?
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Yes, I've heard a lot about Goldwave but never tried it yet,
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> ah
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> well
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> it won't do any harm to add it to the "editor collection".
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> The
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Sound
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Forge manual is a monster, when I last looked at it I think
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> was
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> about 400 pages or more, anyone digested each and every page
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> yet? I was considerably impressed with Wavepad too, been a
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> while
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> since
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> I looked at it but I don't think it was too badly priced
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> either.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Audasity should be worthwile investigating too if features
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> available
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> in 1.35 beta make it to the next official version.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>> On 02/03/2008, at 5:00 AM, Larry N wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Hi Billy. Interesting question. I have 4 sound editors
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> onboard.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> There's
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> GoldWave, Sound Forge 8, DC 6 and WavePad. If you are 
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> asking
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> simple
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> ease of use, accessibility and a manual that is easy to
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> understand
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> and set
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> up in a way that can be accessed quickly, then GoldWave 
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> wins
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> hands
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> down.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> However, there are tasks that DC6 performs better than any
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> piece
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> software
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> that I've ever used. For instance, it has excellent hiss
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> reduction
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> comprehensive noise reduction. The down side is that its
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> manual
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> difficult
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> to use with speech.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> And Sound Forge? I truly feel that I get less out of it 
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> than
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> probably
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> should, simply due to a lack of understanding. For 
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> instance,
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Sound
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Forge
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> works with editable files which are made into and edited
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> program calls regions. What is a region? I'm not exactly
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> sure,
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> nor
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> am I
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> certain how to go about creating one or editing the thing
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> keyboard
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> alone. Perhaps it is my own inability to understand, but
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> none
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Sound
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Forge faithful have been able to show me why this program 
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> worth
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> its hefty
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> price tag. I would still love to know how to take a 
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> recorded
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> file,
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> such as
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> that generated by a vinyl LP and edit out pops clicks and
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> extraneous
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> noise,
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> then burn it onto a CD using Sound Forge only. Others in
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> group
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> can do
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> so, however I have not succeeded as yet.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Meanwhile, with the exception of actually burning the CD, I
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> edit a
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> project from start to finish using either GoldWave or DC6,
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> To be entirely fair, I can perform some tasks more quickly
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> while
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> using Sound
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Forge. It's equalizer is superior. Its general audio
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> restoration
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> feature
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> works quickly and for the most part reliably when applied 
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> entire file.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> But I don't find the manual easy to use, so I'm sure I'm 
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> getting
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> most from the program.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> As for WavePad, that hasn't been discussed much here. I own
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> copy,
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> but to
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> be honest, I haven't played with it a great deal as yet.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Others will have their own ideas, but if I were buying my
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> first
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> audio editor
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> which could take me far beyond the beginner stage, I would
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> choose
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> GoldWave.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Hope this helps you in some small way.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Larry
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 6:02 AM
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Subject: sound editing?
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> hi guys,
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> what is the best sound editing software on the market
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> today?.
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> What is the basic differences between Gold Wave &
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> SoundForge?,
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> What are the latest versions of both pieces of software,
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> is more
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> speech friendly?,
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Billy
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Billy
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> email. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> MSN. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Skype. bluey1972
>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>
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