Sounds very nice. Thanks for the information. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 6:42 PM Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible
Hi Rick, it depends on what else you're doing. On my N82, I get about 10-12 hours of continuous music on a plane, that is to say when the phone functions aren't running. It's less when they are, and less again if you have WiFi active. Some of the new Nokia phones offer over 24 hours of music playback though. Another advantage of going with the Nokia phones is their built-in support for podcasting. I was in a meeting in another city a couple of days ago. On my way to the airport, I used a HSDPA connection to download a bunch of podcasts and catch up with the news in-flight. The podcast client remembers your place in each podcast. There is a DAISY player for Symbian as well, so you can read newspapers from Newsline etc on it. The N82 will also play Audible content. And even though I don't have one of the phones with longer music playback time because I use the KNFB Reader which only works on the N82 for now, I have a tiny device with me that is a 3400 MA battery, allowing me to charge the phone 3 times. The battery in turn then charges via a wall outlet or USB port. So for me, carrying an iPod, a Stream, or whatever it might be makes no sense. A smartphone does so much more and is in your pocket for a range of uses. In the US, obviously NLS may be a factor, but it isn't for me. Jonathan -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harmon Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:22 a.m. To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible Jonathan, Doesn't playing music on your phone rapidly run your batteries down? And what about quality? I have a phone capable of playing music but I haven't really ever tried it out. Thanks, Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 5:56 PM Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible Saqib, I completely agree with you. I have no need for a Nano when I have an N82. But I think the reason why iPods and other stand-alone playback devices are so big in North America is that they have nowhere near a strong a smartphone culture as Europe, Asia and other places. Jonathan -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of saqib Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 9:24 a.m. To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible Forgive me for my comment folks. Isn't it just easy enough to listen to music from your phone or preferred MP3 device. It's taken Apple so long to meet the VI sector half way with the accessibility issues. Their attitude was sod the blind and who ever can't access our devices or software. It's good that Apple are getting their head around the accessibility factor but this wasn't the case before. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Mosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 9:37 PM Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > Hi Stephen, I have not played with one so am going based on what I've > read, > but it appears that what happens is that when your nano is connected to > your > PC or Mac, a scan is made for all albums and songs on your nano. Using > your > default system voice, say RealSpeak Daniel in SAPI 5 as an example, files > are generated for every artist, song and album. These are then copied to > your Nano so that as you move through the menus, albums and tracks, you > can > hear what these tracks are. So this is quite different from having real > text > to speech on the device itself, and emulates what the guys at Rockbox gave > us quite some time ago, but is still commendable nonetheless. > > Jonathan > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Stephen Guerra > Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 8:18 a.m. > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > Jonathan, so, when you have the new Nano hooked up to your pc, it feeds > off > the TTS you are running and loads it on to the Nano, or am I way off. > > Does the Nano require you to install software to have speech? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:56 PM > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > Alex and all, the new iPod Nanos are sort of accessible but do not use > text > to speech. They use the technique Rockbox has used for around 5 years, > where > they use your default system voice on your PC/Mac to create files that > live > on the nano to announce menus, albums and songs. > > In terms of iTunes in Windows, iTunes 8 has implemented extensive use of > Microsoft Active Accessibility (MSAA). Because of this, JAWS will be able > to > work well out of the box with iTunes once we enable MSAA support for > iTunes > in the next public beta of JAWS 10. I have just been testing this today > and > am able to use the iTunes Music Store, the Radio feature and many others. > Apple have done a good job here. > > Jonathan > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Alex Stone > Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2008 6:53 a.m. > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: Itunes 8 now accessible > > Lauren, According to the Apple website the latest IPod is accessible, but > I > haven't seen one, so I don't know. > Cheers > Alex > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Lauren > Sent: 10 September 2008 19:11 > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Itunes 8 now accessible > > If Itunes is accessible now, which Ipod is accessible as well? > > > Sincerely, > > Lauren > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:33 AM > Subject: Itunes 8 now accessible > > >> Subject line says it all, both for Windows and Mac. >> >> >> -- >> Dane Trethowan >> From Melton Victoria Australia >> mailto:"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >> phone (+61 3) 9005 8589 >> Fax (+61 3) 9743 7954 >> Mobile/SMS (+61 418) 773 532 >> MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> skype callto:grtdane12 >> >> ****************************** >> >> >> Jonathan Mosen List Founder >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Jonathan Mosen List Founder > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. 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