DVD Audio Extractor can extract the described video track of, for example, the Corner Gas videos, into various formats that will play in mdeia players - Wave, MP3, OGG Vorbis, etc., and it also has a preview feature which essentially lets you play the tracks without extracting. Corner Gas is the only commercial TV series I know of that has described video on the standard buy-them-in-the-stores DVD's. There might well be others, but these are the only ones I know of.

Bruce

On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, KANE BROLIN wrote:

Gee, I didn't think I would create such a partisan firestorm by throwing out
the descriptive video questions.      But it is a fascinating discussion
that has taken turns I did not expect.  I am an NFB member, but do not look
at issues with a viewpoint that's as partisan as the Boomer Generation
Federationists.

I don't spend a lot of time with video content at this point in my life, but
have run into descriptive video in the past and simply presumed it would
have become more prevalent in the last 5-10 years.  It seems that the trend
toward video description actually has reversed itself, at least in the
United States.

So Bruce, are you suggesting that if one finds a DVD series like your
Canadian sitcom that's commercially available, use DVD Audio Extractor as a
means of listening to the whole content of the DVD?  Or does this program
simply convert the DVD into a format that some other player such as Windows
Media Player or Winamp can process?

Regards,

-Kane
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Toews" <[email protected]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 6:28 PM
Subject: RE: Descriptive Video on Commercial DVDs and Downloads


If you like good humor, try the Canadian TV show Corner Gas. Seasons 2
through the present all have described video on the commercial DVD's.

Bruce

On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Dave McElroy WA6BEF wrote:

Oh really?  What planet do you live on?  <lol>

NFB and their ilk kind of did it to us when they got the feds to say
that it
was no longer a requirement.  So now if you really want descriptive
programming you have to find it outside of our shores.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
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On Behalf Of Kane Brolin
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: Blind iPod Mailing List; [email protected]
Subject: Descriptive Video on Commercial DVDs and Downloads

Hi, folks.

I'm probably about to ask a question that's painfully obvious to many.
But I'm showing up at the descriptive video/SAP party much later than
some.  I'm writing to the JAWS list because I am a JAWS user.  I'm
writing to the Blind iPod list because purchasing video content on
iTunes is now accessible through use of the J-tunes interface.  So I
hope others view this question as at least somewhat relevant.

I'm presuming, first of all,  that most Hollywood feature films on DVD
come with a descriptive video track encoded somewhere on them.  I'm
presuming the same could be true with downloadable films and TV shows,
too, as from iTunes.  Certainly, most DVDs representing TV programs
where action was described in the first place, should have that same
DVS output on the subsequent DVD release.  If this is true, I'm
wondering about the following:

1.  How can I be sure, if a film or TV show is downloaded, to get the
download version that has descriptive video encoded?  Is there a good
source for such material?  Is there a way I can know for sure about
this feature before I buy?

2.  When playing such downloaded or DVD content on the computer, is
there a software player that is fairly accessible and which also has a
menu option I can invok for activating or turning off the
descriptions?  I've not seen this in RealPlayer or Windows Media
Player, but maybe I'm just not looking in the right place.

3.  Am I being completely naive here?  Obviously, I know a lot of
stuff isn't accessible on its face, and I realize legislation in front
of Congress is attempting to make much of this universal.  I've heard
of some people going to a place like the Serotek network to download
versions of films that have been uploaded specifically for those
wanting video description.  But is this truly necessary?  Or can the
same content be obtained through regular channels with just a little
bit of work on the part of the blind consumer?

Just trying to get a handle on this issue, for my own benefit and for
others I may encounter.

Kind regards,

-Kane

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