Thats really funny since talks out performs Moble speak on my E71 and N95.
Before you start it, I know they are two different platforms and i suspect
that my two units have a lot more horse power then that ozone unit.
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From: "Martin, Tim A., NMDOT" <tim.mar...@state.nm.us>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 9:09 AM
Subject: RE: Talks question
Hi Chris,
You may have a point here. I guess the reason I thought this was that
Talks seemed, when I compared the functions to Mobile Speaks, to be very
sluggish. Also there didn't seem to be the same application access. I
used Talks 2 different times for about 15 days each. And again it may
be how each software package was written, and the platform they are
written for.
I have found out recently that AT&T is selling Mobile Speaks for the
$89.00 that you mentioned. I would be very curious to find out if it is
the fully functioning MSS and whether the license can be transferred to
other devices.
Have a good day.
Tim
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From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 6:52 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Talks question
Why do you say the Talks that Verizon sells is not the full working
version?
What are you comparing it to? I believe it's the only Talks sold for the
Windows Mobile platform, so I think it is the fully working version.
Just as Code Factory has different products for the Symbian, Windows
Mobile and Pocket PC platforms, Nuance has different products for the
Symbian and now Windows Mobile platform. I think people need to be
careful when talking about Talks that they're clear to specify the
Symbian versus Windows Mobile version.
I'm also not sure why you're saying Verizon is getting away with
anything selling Talks for $99. AT&T sells Mobile Speak for $89, and I
think that's the same product you'd get from Code Factory for quite a
bit more. I suspect the price is more the result of a deal made between
Nuance and Verizon or AT&T and code Factory than it is the fact that a
stripped down version of the screen reader is being sold.
--
Christopher
chalt...@gmail.com
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On Behalf Of Martin, Tim A., NMDOT
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:48 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: RE: Talks question
Hi Lauren,
I think the version of Talks Verizon sells for the $99.00 would work for
most functions, but it is not the full working version. That is
probably why they get away with selling it for the price they do.
Mobile Speaks does not work at this time for the Black Berry phones, but
it does work quite well with the Ozone, that is the phone I have.
You might talk to Verizon and they may let you have the good price on
the Ozone, I believe it was $49.00 with a 2 year contract. If you can
afford it, I would get the Ozone without speech, and then you can
purchase Mobile Speaks. I realize it is pricy, but you can transfer the
software to other Smart phones in the future should you decide at some
point to get another phone. Of course, you can only run the software on
1 phone at a time, but when you need to, the transfer is quite simple.
Also, you get a fully functional 30-day trial before you have to
purchase, which allows you some time to acquire the funds. The company
that I purchased my Mobile Speaks from has a 6 or 12 month purchase
plan. They do charge a small fee for this, but it makes things a little
easier if you can't get the money at once.
You are able to access the Internet fine from this phone. You do
however, need to have good cell service in the area in which you live.
You can set the phone up to retrieve your Internet E-mail, and it is not
difficult to read texts or E-mails. I wouldn't use a phone as my main
source for surfing the net, but the feature is there should one need it.
Any other questions are welcomed.
Sincerely,
Tim Martin
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[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Lauren
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:35 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Talks question
Hi Tim,
Thanks for the info. Verizon sells the Ozone with Talks preloaded, but I
can't find out if it is a limited or fully functioning version. If I
choose it, do you know if I can navigate everything myself like
accessing menus, email, internet and texting? Use of the internet would
really be great for me!
The Talks cost $99; the Mobile Speaks, does it allow you to do
everything and would it work on a Blackbury? I think I mad the mistake
of buying a Blackbury Tour with Vlingo, but am discovering it won't let
me access what I need. Verizon will let me trade to another phone
without any penalty because of my disability.
Please advise and thanks to Gary also for his very helpful link.
Sincerely,
Lauren
----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin, Tim A., NMDOT" <tim.mar...@state.nm.us>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:38 AM
Subject: RE: Talks question
Good morning List,
Here is the promised information.
A few months ago I started hearing talk of a Smart Phone that was
fully
accessible to blind people. This phone was from Verizon and contained
the Talks program. The phone was a Motorola Q-9C and with the speech
program cost $249 with a 2 year contract. According to Verizon, the
Moto phone was the only one they offered that would do this. Of
course
I was eager to have a phone that would allow me complete access to all
it had to offer. I was currently using the Env 2 and I could read and
compose text messages, but as far as simple things like setting an
alarm
or leaving myself a note, and many other things, it just wouldn't
happen.
I purchased the phone and found it to work fairly well, but it had a
few
issues. It came with Pocket Word that wasn't accessible with the
Talks
program. This left me a bit frustrated because I wanted full use of
all
the features of this phone, and so I began to inquire of other types
of
phones and different speech programs. Through my searching, I
discovered that the Talks program Verizon sells and on the Moto phone
was not the fully functioning version of the program.
I was able to return the Moto Q to Verizon for a full refund after
hearing of a program called: Mobile Speaks. This program can be used
on Smart Phones running Windows Mobile along with Pocket PC's. It
works
with several different service providers and costs about $300.00. I
was
able to purchase the Moto Q-9C from an individual and used the Mobile
Speaks program for a 30-day trial to make sure I liked all it had to
offer. This program works great, and I'm able to use features on a
different new phone I've purchased which is called the Ozone from
Verizon. I kept the Moto to use as a spare, but I wanted a brand-new
phone.
Since all of this, I found out that the Talks program, like Mobile
Speaks is a fully functioning program, but doesn't work with as many
smart phones and with as many carriers.
I might also point out that when you purchase a Smart Phone from
Verizon
that has come out after November of last year, that you must have a
Data
package with your current plan. A Data package gives you access to
the
Internet and E-mail from your phone. This is not meant for everyone,
but if you think there might be a reason for this function, then a
Windows Mobile device running a speech program might be what you need.
If anyone has any questions, they can keep the thread going on this
list
or contact me off list at:
tim.mar...@state.nm.us
Here is the link to where you can get a trial of the Mobile Speaks
software.
http://www.codefactory.es
To get a good detailed tutorial on installing and using this program,
also a place to purchase once you've used the trial of Mobile Speaks:
http://www.handytech.us/demos.html
Hope all this helps.
Sincerely,
Tim Martin
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