I don't see this or the analogy with the recording industry. The
recording industry is trying to protect a business model that needs to
evolve, although this doesn't mean it's OK to steal from the recording
industry. The NLS is trying to work with publishers and copyright
holders to make material freely available to the blind. They need to
make this material available and easy to use for the blind while
protecting the material from getting into the mainstream and impacting
sales of audio books. It's easy to tare down the model the NLS has
chosen to use, but I'm not seeing many alternatives being proposed here.
Remember the 4-track cassettes were a way of doing the same thing. I
think the new digital program is great and gives me a lot more
opportunities than I had with the analog model. I'd hate to lose this
service due to the short sightedness of some.
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On 4/18/2010 10:43 AM, James Homuth wrote:
Sure, if you believe BARD. Unfortunately, they're borrowing talking points
from the recording industry. And those talking points have been debunked 6
ways from Sunday.
-----Original Message-----
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Ford Blackwell
Sent: April 18, 2010 11:42 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
Actually, the consequences of wide spread piracy from outlets like Bard will
be the elimination of the service.
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Homuth"<ja...@the-jdh.com>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'"<pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:36 AM
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
Apple tried to do the exact same thing with their iTunes. They tried
limitting exactly what type of player you could put their music etc on
in the same way BARD is. The reasons that didn't work are the exact
same reasons BARD shouldn't be doing that either. If you get your
hands on something, whether you have legal access to do so or not,
you're going to want to do whatever you want with that something.
Either put it on a CD, or copy it to something smaller than your
Victor Reader, or any number of things. And if someone wants to burn
that book to a CD, or do something else with it that BARD has decided
they're not allowed to, even though they have legal access to it,
people are just going to find less legal means to do so.
Rather than prop up and defend an out of date business model, people
should be pushing companies like BARD to get caught up with the rest
of the world and actually give people a choice as to what to do with
their acquisitions.
-----Original Message-----
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of Ford Blackwell
Sent: April 18, 2010 11:28 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
But with Bard, you're not permitted to share and you have to qualify
for their service by being blind and having a player that they authroize.
There
is a specific exception in the copyright law for Bard and Bookshare
type services.
----- Original Message -----
From: "mitchell"<mitchellgre...@gmail.com>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'"<pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:17 AM
Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing
I'm with you man, if it is steeling then why is it all rite to use
bard with the book players, because you are downloading the books.
Then you are not giving them back. Not a problem as far as I am
concerned.
Mitchell
-----Original Message-----
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 8:09 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing
Ok, so you say, "it's still stealing."
Then you tell me, why are there still some websites that lets you
download music and audio books without having to pay anything for it?
Yes these sites still exist, and people are downloading music and
audio books without having to pay a dime for it.
Explain that one to me, if you can!
John.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom"<t...@pc-audio.org>
To:<pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 6:49 AM
Subject: It's Still Stealing
It's still stealing whether or not your boss gives you permission to
copy it.
Tom
** Message From: DJ DOCTOR P **
High Tom,
I don't do it unless my boss gives me the green light to
do it.
If he says yes, then I do it.
But if he says no, then it doesn't happen.
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