Before the dust settles on this thread, I'd like to put in my two cents. First, 
even though the list moderator started this, I commend him for letting the 
debate continue. Now my opinions. I agree totally with James statements on the 
underhanded tactics of the RIAA who not only gave us his views, but eloquently 
stated facts to back them. Instead of the RIAA embracing the industry and 
changing with it, they're fighting it. If you think about it, this is nothing 
new. The same thing happened with the film industry when video tape came out 
and now two generations later, people are still going to the movies. The RIAA 
says they're only trying to protect the artist when they tell us not to pirate 
music. What a smoke screen. That's bull. If its true, why haven't some of the 
major labels even paid what they owe to their artists for there work from the 
sixties. I'm glad the Internet has come along for musicians to freely 
distribute and market there music. There are also a lot more indee labels then 
they're used to be. I'm a musician myself, and  I know a lot of musicians who 
freely put some of there music on line for download. Then look at a group like 
the grateful dead who actually encouraged recording at they're concerts with 
special sections reserved for recording. It hasn't hurt there success or album 
sales at all. I think its actually increased it. I've downloaded music both 
legally and illegally myself, and if I like something I may buy it after the 
download. As for NLS and the new BARD download system, what alternative method 
would you have suggested? I think that was the best way to go. I for one would 
much rather be able to download books that I could keep indefinitely rather 
than having them disappear after a given amount of time like they do with 
overdrive. Also we get a good solidly built player that's portable, free of 
charge, and with great audio. Now. as far as the accusations made that the 
player is making some people "tuns of money", that's just paranoid thinking. 
Can you prove that? Who is making all this money? Do you have figures? The 
players cost NLS $150 each.The last four track players built cost double that. 
So NLS will actually be saving in the long run. I also think they'll eventually 
save the tax payers even more money when all books will be borrowed by way of 
download eliminating the need for mailing of containers and cartridges. And as 
I said before. These players are provided to us free of charge. Also, were not 
the only ones using a special player. What about sighted people who use the 
kindle.Then If you want to talk about a real rip-off, compare that to the over 
priced player recorders made by plextalk and others. They don't even sound as 
good and cost more than double what the NLS player costs. I really applaud the 
open source idea and the people who are developing rockbox.  Then,Compare that 
with the greedy attitude of rip-off scientific and look at the price of Jaws 
and the fact they have the exclusive government contract for screen readers in 
colleges. But that's another subject and it would be off topic.
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