Hank,

The Sony Tuner is no longer manufactured and hasn't been for a while.  
Therefore, you might have trouble finding it.  I'll dig out the model of the 
Coby, but as I recall, there were two of them, a tuner, and a 
portable of some kind.  

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 21:19:35 -0700, hank smith, and seeing-eye dog iona wrote:

>all I am finding is a  tuner for cars are u sure the sony hd is the 
>correct model number?
>also what was the model of the coby one as well?
>Hank
>On 7/24/2013 9:10 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>> Hmm, and I thought our DAB+ system was bad at times <smile>.
>>
>> I'm very sorry to hear that you seem to have a lack of choice when it comes 
>> to tuners etc.
>>
>> I'm outside the DAB+ receiving area of Melbourne in theory and I can still 
>> receive DAB+ on all my sets here though the Yamaha Tuner I wrote about last 
>> week handles DAB+ signals better than any other 
DAB+ capable device I have here and I have around a dozen of those.
>>
>> Someone told me that Sony made a very "Hot" HD tuner and perhaps this is the 
>> one you refer to in your message below?
>>
>> If they're still available then they're worth grabbing, not so much for the 
>> HD content but they're very good for DXing work.
>>
>>
>> On 25/07/2013, at 11:55 AM, Gary Schindler <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Steve, usually the CBS and Clear channel stations have good CD quality 
>>> audio on HD 1 and 2 here in Pittsburgh. On KDKA HD 3 you get the CBs Radio 
>>> Sports programming which doesn't sound any 
better than FM programming. I would guess that WCCO probably has the same setup.
>>>
>>> There is another local broadcast company called Steel City Media that 
>>> broadcast on all 4 hd channels in Stereo. all of them sound like hd quality 
>>> but the fourth channel is much weaker on both stations, so 
if we have windy days you have a lot of drop outs.
>>>
>>>
>>> I concur with you, A M HD isn't good at all. during the day KDKA A M was 
>>> decent, but at night, the signal wasn't strong enough to hold it locked in. 
>>> WTAE was weak enough that it is impossible to listen to 
it in the day time too.
>>>
>>> Since the a m uses the ajacent channels you can forget night time DX 
>>> listening.
>>>
>>> I think you have a Coby from what you are describing, and I was tempted to 
>>> buy one but never did. Try looking for a Sony HD-100 tuner. that should 
>>> have a 75 ohm F connector that you want. I guess you 
will have to find it on EBay.
>>>
>>> I have a couple of Radiosoppy tabletop hd radios that you take the whip 
>>> antenna off the back of the radio and there is the F connector for a 
>>> rooftop antenna. they don't make the sets any more, so EBay 
might be the place to find them too.
>>>
>>> any more you have to get hd tuners incorporated in to stereo receivers like 
>>> Pioneer, Demon or something like that.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Jacobson" 
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 12:00 PM
>>> Subject: Re: A Favour
>>>
>>>
>>>> Dane,
>>>>
>>>> I do have an inexpensive HD Tuner and a couple of HD radios and could 
>>>> provide an example.  However, I am not sure what such a
>>>> sample will tell you.  HD Radio in the United States is so variable in its 
>>>> quality.  For example, on FM, the HD programming can be
>>>> divided into multiple programs and the bandwidth that is allocated to each 
>>>> program can vary.  One of the Christian stations here
>>>> in Minneapolis-St. Paul, Minnesota, has four HD channels.  One of our 
>>>> public stations has three HD channels but one is the BBC and
>>>> they allocate very little bandwidth to it so it sounds a little like a 
>>>> lower bit-rate MP3.  Some radio stations seem pretty good
>>>> about not compressing the HD program while others seem to feed pretty much 
>>>> the same signal to the HD program as to the main analog
>>>> program so the difference is just less noise.  .  From what I have read, 
>>>> DAB is clearly a superior system, but it uses an
>>>> additional frequency band that broadcasters here did not want to risk.
>>>>
>>>> In my opinion, HD on AM radio here is not very good.  A good HD signal on 
>>>> AM sounds very nice, almost as good as an analog FM
>>>> signal, but the AM signal has to be so good that the analog signal would 
>>>> sound pretty good if it was not restricted in bandwidth
>>>> because of the HD signal.  I bought a Carver tuner that was capable of 
>>>> receiving AM Stereo back in the 1980's here, and the sound
>>>> quality was pretty good.  HD AM radio sounds better, but it takes so 
>>>> little to disrupt it that it doesn't seem all that practicle.
>>>>
>>>> Another frustration of mine is that I can't find a good HD Tuner any more. 
>>>> I bought one from Amazon that listed for $99 but is
>>>> now sold for $35 and it isn't bad, but it has a permanently connected wire 
>>>> antenna for FM with no obvious place to connect a
>>>> ground.  My system is in a basement and I have an outdoor FM antenna, but 
>>>> there is no simple way to connect a 75-ohm coxial cable
>>>> to it.  The HD table radios I have all have coxial cable connections so I 
>>>> never thought to check if the tuner had a 75-ohm
>>>> connection.  The wire antenna would be adequate above ground level.  I 
>>>> have some electronic knowledge so I've experimented with
>>>> making a connection to the 75-ohm cable available in the basement, but the 
>>>> connection is not very efficient.  I saw a Sony tuner
>>>> available used but it was at three or four times the original price, and 
>>>> there were some bad reviews associated with the seller.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Finally, here in the Twin Cities in Minnesota, apparently HD is not a part 
>>>> of many of our stations' backup transmitters.  A number
>>>> of our bigger stations are on a couple of tall transmission towers, and 
>>>> when they do maintenance on the towers, the analog signal
>>>> is transmitted from a backup site but no HD.  This has been a somewhat 
>>>> common occurrence this summer for some reason.
>>>>
>>>> Even with all this, I like HD because the sound can be good, and it opens 
>>>> up the potential for additional programming on our FM
>>>> bands.
>>>>
>>>> After reading all of this, let me know what sort of samples you might like 
>>>> or if you would simply like a good and a poor example.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Steve Jacobson
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 11:48:52 +1000, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi!
>>>>> Does anyone out there have a HD Tuner? I'm looking for some samples of HD 
>>>>> radio so if someone could provide then I'd be most
>>>> appreciative.
>>>>
>>>>> I can return the favour perhaps by providing some samples of DAB+.
>>>>
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