In full agreement and I do the same thing with my Chromecast but as I've said before and I'll say again, no Third Party App - as things stand at the moment - can ever do DLNA for the Apple TV due to the "Closed" nature of that device, Apple consider that the iCloud service they have with the iCloud Drive and so on is good enough and
The Chromecast is a wonderful idea from Google, I've spoken of it before as have other list members so I won't go through all the boring details, suffice to say that if you're looking for a cheap set top box solution that's incredibly compact for a bargain price then the Chromecast is certainly worth the look, turns your TV literally into a smart TV. it probably would be for most people, upload your files to the iCloud and browse them there, buy your videos, rent your movies etc. On 24 Sep 2014, at 4:23 am, Rick Alfaro <[email protected]> wrote: > I also have a ChromeCast and although it doesn't support DLNA directly, I > can certainly use any of many Android apps that do support DLNA and will > work with ChromeCast. Again, it's the third party app actually providing the > DLNA support. You can't beat it for $35 but I just don't care for Android > even after giving it a chance with a Nexus 7. Some iPhone apps support > ChromeCast but not very many. > > > > Best regards, > > Rick Alfaro > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dane > Trethowan > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 2:11 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: DLNA Devices > > You may be right I honestly don't know but there's not even a hint that > there will be a next Generation of Apple TV, guess we'll have to wait and > see. > > Certainly the competition is out there for the Apple TV but DLNA control is > only one factor, the Chromecast - a most worthy Set Top Box in its own right > - doesn't have it. > > On 24 Sep 2014, at 3:36 am, Rick Alfaro <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Guess that's where you and I disagree. I actually do believe this will >> change in the next gen. Imho, it has to if they want to stay competitive > in >> the set top box market unless they actually do have plans for their own TV >> set which I don't believe they do. They will be competing not only with >> other set top boxes like Roqu but also with smart TVs. I believe you will >> see all kinds of new stuff on the next gen Apple TV including app support >> opening up the way for web browsers, and yes, even file browsers with DLNA >> support without any sort of jailbreak required. Of course maybe I'm wrong >> and far too optimistic but I do believe this is coming soon. >> >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Rick Alfaro >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Pc-audio [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dane >> Trethowan >> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 4:54 PM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Re: DLNA Devices >> >> I actually got your point but the point is that you can't have DLNA on an >> Apple TV if its closed so the third party App - for iPhone or whatever - >> can't get at the Apple TV and I doubt Apple will change this. >> >> I very much hope I'm wrong by the way as the Apple TV - in my opinion - is >> far too restrictive and it would be in Apple's best interest to make > changes >> but I doubt that will happen. >> >> If you want DLNA support form an Apple TV through third party Apps then > your >> best option is to get an Apple TV 1ST generation which will allow that > given >> a little Tweaking. >> >> On 23 Sep 2014, at 6:29 am, Rick Alfaro <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> You are missing my point. >>> >>> I'm not saying that DLNA support might be one of the changes. I'm saying >>> that third party app support is rumored to be one of the big changes. If >>> third party app support is added in the next gen then the possibility is >>> high of seeing DLNA support via a third party app just as it is now >> possible >>> on IOS third party apps to access DLNA devices. >>> >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Rick Alfaro >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dane >>> Trethowan >>> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 4:21 PM >>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>> Subject: Re: DLNA Devices >>> >>> There may be some changes in the next generation of Apple TV - if there > is >>> to be a next generation - but I sincerely doubt that DLNA will be one of >>> those given that Apple considers the Apple TV perfectly capable of > playing >>> files from different locations though this is done in a different way >> using >>> the Cloud. >>> >>> >>> On 23 Sep 2014, at 12:36 am, Rick Alfaro <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Notice I said the next generation of the Apple TV, not the current. If >>> the >>>> next generation will support third party apps as is rumored, the chances >>> of >>>> DLNA support is quite high so I disagree. I do agree however that the >>>> current gen will probably never see it. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> >>>> Rick Alfaro >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dane >>>> Trethowan >>>> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 4:20 PM >>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>>> Subject: Re: DLNA Devices >>>> >>>> Hmm interesting, I doubt whether the Apple TV will support this as its a >>>> "Closed" device, I don't think it even has the mory to support extra >> Apps, >>>> that's why I strongly advise against buying the Apple TV when there are >> so >>>> many other solutions around which are open to third party development, >>>> either that or they're far more flexible in what they do. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 22 Sep 2014, at 3:56 am, Rick Alfaro <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> My one thought on this topic is that I really wish that the Apple TV >>>>> supported DLNA! I'm hoping the next generation of Apple TV will support >>>> this >>>>> or at least allow third party apps on the device that could add DLNA >>>>> support. I have several devices that support DLNA and none of them are >>>>> visible to an Apple TV currently. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> >>>>> Rick Alfaro >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dane >>>>> Trethowan >>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 4:37 AM >>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>>>> Subject: DLNA Devices >>>>> >>>>> Hi! >>>>> >>>>> I've always been fascinated with Media Servers and devices since I >> bought >>>> my >>>>> Fritz! Box over 2 and a half years ago. >>>>> >>>>> DLNA is the protocol devices, Media Servers, Computers and Apps use to >>>>> communicate with each other. >>>>> >>>>> For example, its now common place for a Smart TV to have DLNA >>>> compatibility >>>>> on board which allows the browsing and playing of content on a remote >>>> Media >>>>> Server, this is typically a hard drive or NAS storage unit connected to >> a >>>>> Home Network. >>>>> >>>>> Many devices available are not accessible to these media servers given >>>> their >>>>> menu systems and no built in speech capabilities so "Dead End" I hear >> you >>>>> cry? Well not quite. >>>>> >>>>> I have quite a few devices which have DLNA compatibility built into > them >>>> and >>>>> I'm able to utilise the DLNA functions of each through DLNA management >>>> Apps >>>>> on my IOS device. >>>>> >>>>> When the App is launched on say an iPhone it comes up with a list of >> DLNA >>>>> compatible servers attached to your network, these may include hard >>>> drives, >>>>> computers etc. >>>>> >>>>> From here you select the type of content you wish to see, you can >> "Browse >>>>> Folders" for particular content or select a category such as "Music". >>>>> >>>>> What then is displayed depends very much on the category selected, if >> you >>>>> select "Music" then you'll see various sub categories such as Artist, >>>> Album, >>>>> Playlist etc. >>>>> >>>>> If you select Playlist then a list of playlists will appear and yo u > can >>>>> select the appropriate list from here etc. >>>>> >>>>> At this point you can select an output device to play the content to, >>>> again >>>>> these are DLAN compatible devices which could include your Windows PC, >>>> your >>>>> Smart TV, a wireless speaker system, a network media player and so on. >>>>> >>>>> Thought some list members may wish to follow this up. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ********** >>>>> >>>>> Dane Trethowan >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> Skype: grtdane12 >>>>> Phone US (213) 438-9741 >>>>> Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 >>>>> Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 >>>>> Mobile: +61400494862 >>>>> faceTime +61400494862 >>>>> Fax +61397437954 >>>>> Twitter: @grtdane >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> ********** >>>> >>>> Dane Trethowan >>>> [email protected] >>>> Skype: grtdane12 >>>> Phone US (213) 438-9741 >>>> Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 >>>> Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 >>>> Mobile: +61400494862 >>>> faceTime +61400494862 >>>> Fax +61397437954 >>>> Twitter: @grtdane >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> ********** >>> >>> Dane Trethowan >>> [email protected] >>> Skype: grtdane12 >>> Phone US (213) 438-9741 >>> Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 >>> Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 >>> Mobile: +61400494862 >>> faceTime +61400494862 >>> Fax +61397437954 >>> Twitter: @grtdane >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> ********** >> >> Dane Trethowan >> [email protected] >> Skype: grtdane12 >> Phone US (213) 438-9741 >> Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 >> Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 >> Mobile: +61400494862 >> faceTime +61400494862 >> Fax +61397437954 >> Twitter: @grtdane >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ********** > > Dane Trethowan > [email protected] > Skype: grtdane12 > Phone US (213) 438-9741 > Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 > Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 > Mobile: +61400494862 > faceTime +61400494862 > Fax +61397437954 > Twitter: @grtdane > > > > > > > ********** Dane Trethowan [email protected] Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
