nice what version of protools?
On 7/1/2015 6:23 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
So you too have a Fastrak? Wonder if its the same model as mine.
Bought mine several years ago, came with an extremely useful version
of Pro-tools, accessible on both Windows PC and Mac.
On 2/07/2015 11:20 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
Oh yeah I understand. Thanks for the clarification anyways. I knew
what you meant by audio interface because that's what things like the
MAudio Fastrack are called. I saw that on wwwsweetwater.com. So I was
all like oooooo fancy shmancy word for a pro sound card. Then I said
why not just call it that? A soundcard. For that's what it is. A pro
1 but a soundcard none the less.
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From: Pc-audio [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Dane Trethowan
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 8:43 PM
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Just to clear up any confusion, its the audio device you’re using
that determines what the quality of the audio will be thus the
software you’re using - in this case Total Recorder - gets the
information from Windows and the connected audio Hardware.
In my case if I wish to record at 192K 24 bit I’d go into Total
Recorder for this example, select Recording Source And Parameters
from the Options Menu and then select the Hardware device I wish to
record from, from there I’d select “Change” to set the recording
format which would be to PCM High Quality and then I’d select the
attributes from the combo box, 24 bit 192KHZ.
On 2 Jul 2015, at 10:36 am, Hamit Campos <[email protected]> wrote:
Ah okay. Than who ever the dude that first told me about it and gave
me the link to it was was wrong than. Cause who ever that was said
it would only do 48 KHZ 16 bit which is a DVD. If it can do 192
yahoo . Even better.
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Dane Trethowan
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Okay firstly, you can redefine the shortcuts in Total Recorder so
they represent something that you may be used to, I've done this
myself.
Second, Total Recorder's support of bit rates depends on what sort
of Interface you're using, I can record in 24 bit 192K if required -
and its not but its there all the same, you'll find all that stuff
in Total Recorder if you look under Recording Source etc.
On 2/07/2015 8:52 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
I've tried Total recorder a little strange to work, but kind of got
it. Also, it doesn't do full blu-ray audio quality. PCM 96 thousand
KHZ 24 Bit recording. I love me some 96 KHZ 24 bit audio.
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Steve Jacobson
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 5:15 PM
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Subject: RE: Review: Sony Creative Software Sound Forge Pro 11 -
Studio Daily
Dane and others,
This is a valuable thread and I hope we can continue with some
serious discussion because it seems to me that a lot gets glossed
over. I started out with CoolEdit and stuck with it when it became
Audition 1.0 and also 1.5 from Adobe. It wasn't perfect, but it
could do a lot, and it was pretty accessible. Then came Audition
2.0 which displayed everything differently and it was suddenly not
accessible. At that point, I switched to Sound Forge.
While I certainly fall into the category of hoping a new version of
Sound Forge will be more accessible, I am also relieved when a new
version doesn't make inaccessible that which I already know as
Audition did. There is also a tendency on my part to feel that
since I've already made an investment in money and also in time to
learn the software, that I tend to stick with new versions. Still,
I would never say that Sound Forge is the best audio editor for us.
If someone gets what they want from another editor that is more
accessible, they are going to experience a good deal less frustration.
Even so, it does seem to me that there is a lot being said without
looking at details. More than once, in my frustration with Sound
Forge, I've tried something else and found it did a specific thing
I was looking for but didn't do something else I needed. I've also
seen cases where what Sound Forge gives me that is not readily
accessible, are sometimes things I don't see offered at all in some
other programs. I mentioned a couple of days back that I was
trying to dynamically expand some compressed audio and I could find
no accessible way to do it with Sound forge. I developed an
expansion preset using an Optacon, a difficult process, but I can
now use that preset to accomplish some of what I wanted. When I
last checked, I didn't find that I could expand data with a couple
of the popular programs. In one case, the "expansion" I was told
could be done by another package was for expanding the sound field,
not the dynamic range. I also found that I got results with the
Sound Forge Noise Reduction plug-in that to my ear, I could not
achieve with a couple of other programs. It wasn't that they
didn't reduce noise, they did that very well. One of the four
noise reduction modes that Sound Forge had, though, allowed me to
get rid of more noise with less side effects. I could not find
anything that worked as well in that particular case. I developed
a process in Sound Forge that I use on meetings that does a nice
job of bringing up the audio gain for questions off mike that
sounds a lot like someone manually adjusting the gain. It delays
compression and then after a couple of seconds brings up the gain.
Other programs had similar effects, but I could just never quite
get the same results.
So what's my point, I know I'm sounding like I'm saying that Sound
Forge is the best. That's not what I mean to say. Where my
frustration is that I keep reading here that program a does
something as well as Sound Forge does, and program B does something
else as good. What I have not felt has been said specifically is
where there is a program that does everything Sound Forge does for
me and also does some of what Sound Forge does in a more accessible
way. So SWave can edit as tightly. That is good to know, but what
else does it do? Does anybody have experience with the latest
version of Audition with the latest screen reader support for it?
Is it worth a look? I tried it a while back and much of what was
lost is now made accessible using MSAA or UIA, but I still found gaps.
I took a close look at Audacity plug-ins a while back and I found a
huge number of them. However, it seemed like many were made to
deal with very specific problems, and in my searching, I didn't
find anything that would dynamically expand audio, either
accessible or not.
It is fine to say there are many other options, and I wouldn't
argue with that at all. It's just that in my experience, it seems
as though I would have to use many other options to do what I am
managing to do with Sound Forge with all of its accessibility
issues. I would like to hop onto another band wagon, especially if
it was better and cheaper, but it would be helpful if we didn't
each have to try five different programs to find out what each will
or not do. Has anyone found Audacity plug-ins that are
particularly useful? What else does SWave do? I know that Total
Recorder can record pretty much any audio that comes into a
computer, can be set up for timed recording, and can be used to
edit, but does it have other audio functions? Gold wave does a lot
of things well. Can anyone who used Sound Forge and moved to Gold
Wave talk about what is better and what isn't? It would be helpful
to get some specifics from people who use various tools.
Best regards,
Steve Jacobson
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From: Pc-audio [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Dane Trethowan
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 1:08 PM
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You're right about what people are used to yes but tight edits in
Goldwave? Again, if you know what you're doing then yes, you
certainly can do some very tight editing in Goldwave, Total
Recorder etc, both those pieces of software have functions a plenty
for tight editing.
On 1/07/2015 10:00 PM, tim cumings wrote:
If you are looking for a program on the pc side that is a good
editor I use golswave. Despite opinions to the dcontrary, you can
make just as tight edits in goldave as ou can in sound forge. I
think a lot of it is simply what hyou are used to in terms of an
editor. Jonathan Mosen, for example, who used to be a big proponent
of sound forge, told me recently that on the pc side he now uses
studio recorder for most of his pc editing needs. Now studio
recorder doesn't have all the bells and whistle that sound forge
does, noise reduction, ability to use plug-ins, etc, but for just
plain editing it apparently works very well.
.
On 7/1/2015 12:48 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I don't know whether we're talking along the same lines but I know
that I can write each channel of a surround-sound recording to
different files.
On 1/07/2015 1:28 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:
All though Reaper can open surround sound files right? Can you
break them with it too like with SF?
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Dane Trethowan
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:50 PM
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The other problem here also seems to be blind loyalty - pardon the
pun -, people buy a product - in this case Sound Forge -, they've
spent so much money on the product so therefore they're hoping
beyond hope that everything will work as it did in Sound Forge 4.5
and they're not looking to try anything new even though times and
software are a changing and that's unfortunate as those people
miss out on anything that actually works.
Sony Creative Software have never been interested in accessibility
and I doubt they ever will be whereas other products have come
along where the developers are interested in accessibility and
take note of user feedback, there's a lot of competition out there.
A classic case in point is Sonar, I know someone who spent
literally thousands over time on Sonar this and Sonar that,
upgrades and all the rest of it.
I encouraged him to try Reaper and.. well.. he wished he'd known
about it earlier and he's furious with himself for spending a
fortune on Sonar, of course its not his fault but I do give him
credit for having the courage to try another product and just not
blindly follow on.
Finally, I doubt whether 99% of Sound Forge Pro users - whether
Blind or Sighted - would even use a quarter of the functions
offered so we're back to square one, why spend so much money?
On 29/06/2015 5:34 PM, Brian Hartgen wrote:
I agree that Amadeus Pro is ideal on the Mac side, I've used it
and it works very well.
On Windows, in terms of serious audio production without vision,
there is nothing that beats Sound Forge V8 if you can get it, V9
and above have serious accessibility issues in my view and,
despite me reporting these to Sony, they've not been fixed.
On Windows, for multi-track work I use Sonar 8.5. Again, it's
excellent and allows you to be very precise in terms of achieving
a good overall balance of tracks. I like to be very precise with
my editing, and Sonar does not quite give me the flexibility that
Sound Forge does, but we do use Sonar a lot.
Brian Hartgen
Hartgen Consultancy
www.hartgen.org
Phone UK: 02920-850298.
Phone US: 415-871-0626
JAWS Certified, 2015.
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From: Pc-audio [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 4:55 AM
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If you’re just relying on Sound Forge to record with a simple
keystroke then you’re money is well and truly wasted<smile>,
Total Recorder for example records at the touch of a keystroke,
just type ctrl-r from within the Application or set up a global
hotkey to record from anywhere.
I’ve not played with Sound Forge Pro for a very long time, Audio
Studio does me so I’m wondering just how many of the “Visual”
features in Sound Forge Pro 11 a person without sight can make
use of?
If you want to know what my favourite audio package is - for
recording, editing, multi track recording and just about
everything else to do with audio - then its undoubtedly Amadeus
Pro.
On 29 Jun 2015, at 1:41 pm, Hamit Campos <[email protected]>
wrote:
Epic, I've tried it. It's so easy to record with it. 1 keystroke
and you're capturing.
I love it. Can't wait for them to upgrade Audio Studio.
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http://www.studiodaily.com/2013/10/review-sound-forge-pro-11/
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