Good advice but I doubt too many people will follow it <smile>, I don’t know 
how many recordings I’ve heard ruined by Noise reduction when the thing wasn’t 
necessary to be used in the first place or applied in the wrong way.


> On 6 Jul 2015, at 9:52 pm, tim cumings <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi, gary. If by noise suppression you mean noise reduction, any noise 
> reductions has to be used sparingly no matter what program you are using.
> 
> On 7/5/2015 12:11 PM, Gary Petraccaro wrote:
>> The first thing would be called noise supression and the second might be
>> called peak hold.  It's useful when you don't want to guess how loud a
>> recording gets.  Not having a check makes it easier to set the levels for
>> maximum to what really happens in a recording that you want to transfer.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "tim cumings" <[email protected]>
>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2015 3:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: Review: Sony Creative Software Sound Forge Pro 11 - Studio
>> Daily
>> 
>> 
>>>    Hi, gary. I don't mean whatyou mean by quieting.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> You can check your levels in goldwave.
>>> On 7/4/2015 12:19 PM, Gary Petraccaro wrote:
>>>> Doesn't have quieting is a killer for me.  Goldwave has that but all the
>>>> talk said that it was inferior when I was buying.  The other issue was
>>>> level tracking which SF did better than Goldwave back then. Has it
>>>> caught up?
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "tim cumings" <[email protected]>
>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 8:00 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Review: Sony Creative Software Sound Forge Pro 11 - Studio
>>>> Daily
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> If you are looking for a program on the pc side that is a good editor I
>>>>> use golswave. Despite opinions to the dcontrary, you can make just as
>>>>> tight edits in goldave as ou can in sound forge. I think a lot of it is
>>>>> simply what hyou are used to in terms of an editor. Jonathan Mosen, for
>>>>> example, who used to be a big proponent of sound forge, told me recently
>>>>> that on the pc side he now uses studio recorder for most of his pc
>>>>> editing needs. Now studio recorder doesn't have all the bells and
>>>>> whistle that sound forge does, noise reduction, ability to use plug-ins,
>>>>> etc, but for just plain editing it apparently works very well.
>>>>> .
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 7/1/2015 12:48 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>>>>> I don't know whether we're talking along the same lines but I know that
>>>>>> I can write each channel of a surround-sound recording to different
>>>>>> files.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 1/07/2015 1:28 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:
>>>>>>> All though Reaper can open surround sound files right? Can you break
>>>>>>> them with it too like with SF?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>> Dane Trethowan
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 8:50 PM
>>>>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Review: Sony Creative Software Sound Forge Pro 11 -
>>>>>>> Studio Daily
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The other problem here also seems to be blind loyalty - pardon the
>>>>>>> pun -, people buy a product - in this case Sound Forge -, they've
>>>>>>> spent so much money on the product so therefore they're hoping beyond
>>>>>>> hope that everything will work as it did in Sound Forge 4.5 and
>>>>>>> they're not looking to try anything new even though times and software
>>>>>>> are a changing and that's unfortunate as those people miss out on
>>>>>>> anything that actually works.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sony Creative Software have never been interested in accessibility and
>>>>>>> I doubt they ever will be whereas other products have come along where
>>>>>>> the developers are interested in accessibility and take note of user
>>>>>>> feedback, there's a lot of competition out there.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> A classic case in point is Sonar, I know someone who spent literally
>>>>>>> thousands over time on Sonar this and Sonar that, upgrades and all the
>>>>>>> rest of it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I encouraged him to try Reaper and.. well.. he wished he'd known about
>>>>>>> it earlier and he's furious with himself for spending a fortune on
>>>>>>> Sonar, of course its not his fault but I do give him credit for having
>>>>>>> the courage to try another product and just not blindly follow on.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Finally, I doubt whether 99% of Sound Forge Pro users - whether Blind
>>>>>>> or Sighted - would even use a quarter of the functions offered so
>>>>>>> we're back to square one, why spend so much money?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 29/06/2015 5:34 PM, Brian Hartgen wrote:
>>>>>>>> I agree that Amadeus Pro is ideal on the Mac side, I've used it and
>>>>>>>> it works very well.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Windows, in terms of serious audio production without vision,
>>>>>>>> there is nothing that beats Sound Forge V8 if you can get it, V9 and
>>>>>>>> above have serious accessibility issues in my view and, despite me
>>>>>>>> reporting these to Sony, they've not been fixed.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Windows, for multi-track work I use Sonar 8.5. Again, it's
>>>>>>>> excellent and allows you to be very precise in terms of achieving a
>>>>>>>> good overall balance of tracks. I like to be very precise with my
>>>>>>>> editing, and Sonar does not quite give me the flexibility that Sound
>>>>>>>> Forge does, but we do use Sonar a lot.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Brian Hartgen
>>>>>>>> Hartgen Consultancy
>>>>>>>> www.hartgen.org
>>>>>>>> Phone UK: 02920-850298.
>>>>>>>> Phone US: 415-871-0626
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> JAWS Certified, 2015.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>> Dane Trethowan
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 4:55 AM
>>>>>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Review: Sony Creative Software Sound Forge Pro 11 -
>>>>>>>> Studio Daily
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If you’re just relying on Sound Forge to record with a simple
>>>>>>>> keystroke then you’re money is well and truly wasted<smile>, Total
>>>>>>>> Recorder for example records at the touch of a keystroke, just type
>>>>>>>> ctrl-r from within the Application or set up a global hotkey to
>>>>>>>> record from anywhere.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I’ve not played with Sound Forge Pro for a very long time, Audio
>>>>>>>> Studio does me so I’m wondering just how many of the “Visual”
>>>>>>>> features in Sound Forge Pro 11 a person without sight can make use
>>>>>>>> of?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If you want to know what my favourite audio package is - for
>>>>>>>> recording, editing, multi track recording and just about everything
>>>>>>>> else to do with audio - then its undoubtedly Amadeus Pro.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 29 Jun 2015, at 1:41 pm, Hamit Campos <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Epic, I've tried it. It's so easy to record with it. 1 keystroke and
>>>>>>>>> you're capturing.
>>>>>>>>> I love it. Can't wait for them to upgrade Audio Studio.
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>>> Dane Trethowan
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 8:07 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Review: Sony Creative Software Sound Forge Pro 11 - Studio
>>>>>>>>> Daily
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> http://www.studiodaily.com/2013/10/review-sound-forge-pro-11/
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>> 
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