The only things I can compare to even the clasic Victors and the Strattus is tape players. I don't know why HumanWare has chosen that tape player quality for though.

On 5/3/2017 10:04 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I'm telling you now, - regardless of the bit rate - the speaker in the Stream could have a better sound, just plug a very average sounding spekaer you can get at the discount store and you'll soon see what I mean.

I really need to rack my brains to find anything I have here that sounds muffled at the top end as the Stream does, can't think of anything off hand.

Anyway the Stream's in the past for me now, time to look at the blaze ET and of course I'll be interested to hear the speakers in that unit though - judging by the one Hims Inc product I've owned - a Voice Sense - I'm expecting pretty good sound.

On 3/05/2017 11:16 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:
Yeah. Now I've not even seen the Blaze. So can't really Judge 1. But yeah as good as the Plextalks sound to me sure they're no Bose. But meh okay for MP3 at 32 kbps. I think this is why most DAISY players ain't real good. Cause DAISY books. Talking Books are mostly recorded at kinda low quality. Even for recording. If you're okay with CD audio, than fine. But none of these do Blu-Ray audio. Which is 96 KHZ at 24 bits. Or even better 192 KHZ. Oh and no XLR or Phantum Power. What I'm basicaly saying is that yeah there's loads and loads to nit pick and rightly so cause these things are so dam expensive but meh they are what they are and if you're okay with that what evs. Though now you could use the Bard app. I don't know where you are but here in the USA you can now use the app for Learning Ally which use to be RFB&D. So these aren't so needed no more.

On 5/3/2017 9:05 AM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
I think that's just the point. If you're a real audiofile who enjoys high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff sounds, the VR stream ain't for you. Despite all the bad press the player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and report my findings. I do think Bluetooth functionality is something that is lacking and needs to be in a future update. If some of the other specialized players can have it, so can the stream. But i'm buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly ok with it.

I'll also report on the speed of downloading books via online services like BARD. I can always download the books manually and put them on the stream that way. It's good to know there are multiple ways of getting a particular job like that done.

On 5/3/2017 8:58 AM, Hamit Campos wrote:
Ah well The Victors are more player anyways then recorder. The Plextalk Pocket is the thing ya want if ya want a recorder.

On 5/3/2017 5:14 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
Ah okay so that problem still exists then? I was given to understand that later firmware updates had fixed this.
Too late to try that here now <smile>.

On 3 May 2017, at 6:44 pm, Tim Noonan <> wrote:

Sadly, the Stream Mic or line in creates very audible artefacts or whistles in recordings. Otherwise the stream would be a reasonable all-purpose player/recorder.


On 3 May 2017, at 6:02 pm, Dane Trethowan <> wrote:

I didn’t try the line-in recording function though I did note that - using this function - one can record to PCM Wave files at 44.1KHZ so surely this should be reasonable. So if one really wanted to do high quality recordings one could use the line-in method and buy suitable equipment to take full advantage.

On 3 May 2017, at 5:43 pm, Jamie Kelly <> wrote:

The recording quality is ok for notes and meetings but not of high broadcast quality as with the bookport plus or Plextor Pocket range.


-----Original Message-----
From: Pc-audio [] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: Wednesday, 3 May 2017 4:47 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Yep, convenient may be but the unit does have its limitations as we’ve discussed here, the Wi-Fi connectivity being a very serious limitation and - given the speed of the Wi-Fi - one wouldn’t really want to try and download a good quality audio stream.
And again we come to that bloody awful internal speaker.
Another interesting point and its not critical just an observation, I wonder why Human ware didn’t include the ability to be able to browse NAS storage devices or other computers on a network for files? Just about every other device I know of these days - that can play Internet radio stations - haas this handy feature which and I reckon it would be an absolute boom! for users of a VR Stream. Perhaps I’m talking about a future VR Stream update though hHumanware take my advice, don’t make the update too big or it will take until Christmas for the VR Stream users to download <smile>. Regarding my own streaM/ Its found a good home so I’m happy about that.

On 2 May 2017, at 4:34 am, Peter Scanlon <> wrote:

I love my Victor Stream.
The best thing about it is how easy it is to listen to and locate internet radio stations.

-----Original Message-----
From: Pc-audio [] On Behalf Of
Hamit Campos
Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2017 3:07 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <>
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Yeah I've not heard this before either. But perhaps other people either didn't have the issue or they just axepted it.

On 5/1/2017 12:59 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
I'll be purchasing one of these very soon, so will be able to report
on it when i get it.  I have a super-fast connection with Verizon
Fios, so downloading books manually and transfering them to the
player won't be an issue if the download speeds on the player are as slow as some of you guys say they are. I'm kind of shocked that this is just now coming up, as the new generation stream has been out for some time now. I thought this would've been mentioned sooner, but
maybe I skipped over it as I wasn't in the market for one at that
time, i'm not sure. I'll certainly let you guys know my experiences.

On 5/1/2017 12:41 PM, Evan Reese wrote:
As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those
of some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi
transceiver in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says
that reception is poor.
Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that
little package.

-----Original Message----- From: Dane Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation


I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on
my purchase.

Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
most respects.

The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - having already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this,
a bit of an annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a
small BUniden hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for
years, cost me $25 about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have
Bluetooth but I guess a product can't have everythint.

Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up
to date, well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.

There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth - I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions
for that sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream
provides a great entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.

Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
downlaoded a couple of books.

Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even
though I read all my newspapers these days straight from the web
site its good to know I have a reliable backup.

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