Hi Young.

If I understand correctly, your actual requirement is to find a
"threshold criteria" to request a route that is "healthy enough" for the
PCC. So why have you chosen the BER which more relative to a digital
client layer? Why not considering a more optical criteria, like OSNR for
instance?

Have a good week-end,

Julien


-----Original Message-----
From: Young Lee [mailto:[email protected]] 

Hi Julien,

The reason why we put the BER threshold in the PCEP request is to
"approximate" if the optical path in consideration would be "healthy"
enough
from the BER perspective. Please note that we have defined two different
computation types of IA-PCE functions in the IA-WSON framework draft:
(i)
approximate approach; (ii) candidate approach. Approximate approach is a
quick way of estimating the affects of impairment while the candidate
approach is to give a list of acceptable paths with more thorough
data/model. 

The BER can be estimated in various ways given the availability of other
impairment parameters. In any IA-RWA (approximate) type computation
where we
are given impairment parameters to estimate the affects of impairments,
we
must use some threshold criteria to accept/reject paths. The BER
parameter
was our first attempt at providing some control over this criterion.

Best Regards,
Young

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] 

Hi Young.

This is a try to resume our discussion started during the SF meeting.
Indeed, I still don't get the rationale behind adding the BER as a
requirement for PCEP request.

First, I wonder what your intend is when requesting a BER threshold at
computation time while you can't really know it before LSP provisioning.
Obviously, what we look for is a low BER, but the way I see using BER in
routing would be to request a 2nd route *after* a poor BER measurement
on a
firstly established LSP.
Then, considering what you called a "BER estimation", I don't clearly
see
how you intend to estimate (or model?) it. The BER associated to an LSP
is
highly dependent on so many parameters: link DGD at measurement time,
performance of the FEC used for the to-be-provisioned LSP , possible
cross-talk and thus impact of potential adjacent channels...
Furthermore, I
don't really understand why focusing on the measurable BER range while a
typical PMD (in)accuracy may just move us between an acceptable route
and an
unacceptable one, the latter being the very 1st problem we should try to
solve.
Finally, I don't get the use of such feature. Even if we could, why
would I
request a 10^(-6) maximum BER? I don't see any room for anything else
than
"the best one", so do we really need something else? I tend to see BER
as a
varying quality feed*back*, not as an indicator that we can accurately
target at routing time.

I completely agree that PCEP must support optical requirements, but my
concern is to understand actual needs before loading the protocol.
Therefore, I look forward to reading some clarification on those issues.

Best regards,

Julien

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