Hi Fatai,

It is crystal clear that when the document becomes an RFC, IANA will assign the 
correct number.

In my humble opinion, requesting for the early allocation is not "a special 
case", but the normal procedure that should be followed (obviously, it is not 
the traditional way to do things), approved by IANA, so early implementations 
of stable documents have a code point that has no clashes. Furthermore, early 
allocated code points are maintained in the IANA registry. Traditional way of 
adding the "suggested value" in the IANA section in the draft has led to many 
problems. We even have a very recent case where a value used in a draft with 
early implementations has forced a value in an RFC with less implementations to 
change.

    Summing up, I see absolutely no reason not to ask for the early allocation, 
in this particular draft, and in all stable drafts in the working group. I the 
particular case of this drafts, the suggested values of the new objects are the 
same ones are values used in existing RFCs, complicating the interoperability.

In any case, requesting the early allocation is a decision to be taken by the 
authors of the draft. However, I would like to know also the opinions of the 
chairs on wether the early allocation procedure is the "normal procedure" or 
the "special case" for stable working group documents.

Best Regards,

Óscar



De: Fatai Zhang <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Fecha: viernes, 5 de septiembre de 2014 07:59
Para: Oscar Gonzalez de Dios 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>,
 
"[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>"
 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
CC: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Asunto: RE: [Pce] Request for early allocation of code points for 
draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext & status of draft

Hi Oscar,

I don't think we need to ask early allocation of code points, which is for the 
special case (ie., early allocation is not the normal procedure) and the right 
values will be allocated during RFC publication stage (ie., the clash will 
disappear) .

The authors of this draft including me are taking care of this draft and we 
always welcome any review comments from the WG.

Note that the WG chairs told in the previous meeting that they would like to 
move forward 
[draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions<http://tools.ietf.org/wg/pce/draft-ietf-pce-gmpls-pcep-extensions/>]
 first, and then move forward this draft.

Any further comments are apprecicated.


Best Regards

Fatai

From: Pce [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of OSCAR GONZALEZ DE DIOS
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 6:00 PM
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [Pce] Request for early allocation of code points for 
draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext & status of draft

Dear authors of draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext,

The draft draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext, in its version 8 right now, 
introduces a set of new PCEP objects, which require object-class values. 
Current recommended values clash with already allocated values.

As suggested in the last IETF meeting in Toronto, the use of the early 
allocation procedure is recommended to handle the code points (when the draft 
is stable). Would it be possible that authors of the draft ask for early 
allocation of code points for draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext ?

On the other hand, I see that the draft has been stable for a while and even 
has expired. Who is taking care of the updates of the draft? Is the draft going 
to last call in the near future? Are you expecting a review?

Best Regards,

Óscar



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