Hi Cyril, Ramana,

I agree with this, during returning delegation –
On the receiving side, we ignore the content.
On the sending side, we put empty ERO object with no subobject.

The same principle is also applicable to the admin down as per my mail earlier: 
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/pce/current/msg04000.html

It should also to be noted that this is applicable to PCRpt message as well 
where in some case we would not have the ERO object (for ex. Delegation of just 
configured, not-signaled LSP ; admin down of LSP etc).
In these cases as well -
On the receiving side, we ignore the content.
On the sending side, we put empty ERO object with no subobject.

Thus, apart for cyril’s suggested text, we can add generic text in PCRpt/PcUpd 
message section (6.1, 6.2) -

In case of an LSP that is not yet signaled or administratively/
operationally down on receiving such status via PCRpt message the
content of ERO object is ignored at PCE, while the PCC SHOULD
send an empty ERO object with no sub-objects in PCRpt message.


In case of an LSP that is administratively down or returning of
delegation via PCUpd message the content of ERO object is
ignored at PCC, while the PCE SHOULD send an empty ERO object
with no sub-objects in PCUpd message.

What does the WG think about this?

Regards,
Dhruv

From: Pce [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cyril Margaria
Sent: 10 October 2014 00:34
To: Ramana Yarlagadda
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Pce] NULL PCUpdate message

Hi,
From the definition, an empty PCUpd must contain an ERO, I think the question 
boils down to having an empty ERO or an ERO that mirrors the last ERO received. 
This is the only required parameter.
I would propose the following text to clarify:

Section 5.5.3:
Add: Upon reception of a PCUpd with D=0 a PCC MUST ignore the LSP object A bit 
and  the ERO object content.
With that the Empty (I would not introduce a NULL message) PCUpd contains SRP, 
LSP with PLSP-ID, all flags to 0, and an empty ERO.

Br
Cyril


On 9 October 2014 14:33, Ramana Yarlagadda 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi All,

I have a questions on sending the PCUpdate message to delegate an LSP from
PCE to PCC. Can somebody please help me here to understand the PCUpdate message
For delegating an LSP back to PCC.

Re-delegation section talks about empty message but the PCUpdate request 
message definition
Says that all  LSP parameters muse be sent.

1.       PCE requires to send an EMPTY LSP Update message to delegate an LSP  
back to PCC.
What is an acceptable empty LSP message?

Please refer to section 5.5.5 of draft “PCEP extensions for stateful PCE” for 
procedure of returning
Delegation

2.       Section 6.2 of draft “PCEP extensions for stateful PCE” defines the 
PCUpd message.
·         Three mandatory objects must be included in each PCUpd message. The 
error codes
Are defined to notify the sender if any of the mandatory objects missing in the 
PCUpdate
Message.
·         Also, The draft says (copied text from section 6.2)
·
“An LSP Update Request MUST contain all LSP parameters that a PCE wishes to
   be set for the LSP. A PCC MAY set missing parameters from locally
   configured defaults.  If the LSP specified in the Update Request is
   already up, it will be re-signaled.


A clear definition of NULL message would help us here.

-thanks in advance
-ramana



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