Hi Greg,

The case with this draft is that IGP drafts [RFC7471] and [RFC7810] uses 24 bit 
integers for delay and delay variation already to flood this in TEDB.
The PCEP [RFC5440] defined METRIC value as 32 bit IEEE floating point format. 
Changing that in this extension doesn’t seem wise.

It is important to note that this draft is not about measurements, but how to 
use delay/delay-variation as constraints/criteria and use the date in TEDB for 
calculating a suitable E2E path (and thus before the path is setup and data 
flowing). I personally don’t see the benefit in changing format now.

Thanks!
Dhruv

From: Greg Mirsky [mailto:gregimir...@gmail.com]
Sent: 15 September 2016 23:00
To: Dhruv Dhody <dhruv.dh...@huawei.com>
Cc: Alia Atlas <akat...@gmail.com>; The IESG <i...@ietf.org>; pce@ietf.org; 
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Subject: Re: [Pce] Alia Atlas' No Objection on 
draft-ietf-pce-pcep-service-aware-12: (with COMMENT)

Dear All,
delay and delay variation are usually calculated using timestamps collected at 
two endpoints of the path. AFAIK, there are two formats, NTP and 
IEEE-1558v1/v2, being used in OAM protocols to measure Latency/Jitter with 
different precision determined by length of fractional seconds field. Hence my 
question, wouldn't it be easier, more intuitive to use one of the formats or, 
even better, allow both with explicit indication of the format being used, e.g. 
as in RFC 6734.

Regards,
Greg

On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Dhruv Dhody 
<dhruv.dh...@huawei.com<mailto:dhruv.dh...@huawei.com>> wrote:
Hi Alia,

Thanks for your comment, see inline...

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> I am concerned that the 24 bit values of microseconds are being represented
> in IEEE 32-bit floating point.
> A quick look at conversions indicates that all integers will up to 6
> significant figures can be converted without loss of precision.  That
> implies that values of over 1 second may not be accurately sent.  It would
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[Dhruv] I could add a sentence for delay and delay variation -

   The conversion from 24 bit integer to 32 bit IEEE
   floating point could introduce some loss of precision.

Will this be okay?

Regards,
Dhruv


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