Hi Andrew,

>From my point of view, to mark "updates RFC", you need to -
- Update the metadata (https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7322#section-4.1.4)
- Mention that you are updating the RFC 5440 in your abstract/introduction
- Clarify what text is being updated in RFC 5440 and provide the updated text
- Backward compatibility

One easy reference would be to look at the recent RFC 8786 that
updates RFC 8231.

Not sure about a process document that describes these. I remember
there was another individual draft to clarify on what it means to
update an RFC and have more descriptive tags - update/amend/extend an
RFC but we could ignore that for now :)

Dhruv


On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 6:17 PM Stone, Andrew (Nokia - CA/Ottawa)
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Dhruv,
>
> Thanks for the feedback.
>
> The documents aim is extending new functionality, with also adding additional 
> language to implementation behaviour of the existing flag so I suppose it 
> would be an update to RFC5440. Are there other differences to make, other 
> than xml meta data in the document to indicate it updates RFC5440?  (if 
> there's a link that describes that is required that you can point me to that 
> would be appreciated).
>
> Regarding backwards compatibility, good point: the doc includes PCC backwards 
> compatibility comments in section 5 but does indeed not discuss PCE backwards 
> compatibility. From my point of view, I don't see a capability exchange being 
> required. I see support of 'L' flag being an independent interop 
> clarification and 'E' flag being similar to adding another kind of 
> 'constraint' to a path.  I don't think would require a capability exchange to 
> inform the PCC whether or not pce supports a given constraint type. I think 
> the important thing is an existing pce would not error out if it did receive 
> 'E' flag set, and fortunately RFC5440 has that covered with 'Unassigned flags 
> MUST be set to zero on transmission and MUST be ignored on receipt.'  I'll 
> add a remark in the document that comments on this.
>
> Thanks again,
> Andrew
>
> On 2020-07-26, 8:06 AM, "Dhruv Dhody" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>     Hi Andrew,
>
>     Do you think an update to RFC 5440 is required (with meta-data set in
>     the document header)?
>     Based on the description of the flag field it feels like an update
>     would be needed -
>
>       o  L flag: As defined in [RFC5440] and further updated by this
>           document.  When set, protection is desired.  When not set,
>           protection is not desired.  The enforcement of the protection is
>           identified via the E-Flag.
>
>
>     BTW, thanks for section 4 it helps!
>
>     Maybe add an explicit backward compatibility section. Consider a PCC
>     that supports your extension, and sets the E flag to 1 and a PCE that
>     does not support your extension will ignore it and behave as before
>     and thus not enforce local protection, and there would be no way for
>     the PCC to know about it! Not sure if we need some sort of capability
>     exchange here?
>
>     Thanks!
>     Dhruv
>
>     On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 10:45 PM Stone, Andrew (Nokia - CA/Ottawa)
>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>     >
>     > Hi PCE WG,
>     >
>     > This draft was updated to include the following:
>     >
>     > - Draft renamed to reflect this is for "local" protection enforcement 
> (used to be called path-protection)
>     > - new co author
>     > - Added more text regarding the various use cases / why a user may want 
> these options
>     > - Added text discussing situations of no preference / "no not care"
>     >
>     > Thanks
>     > Andrew
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > On 2020-03-02, 11:32 AM, "[email protected]" 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>     >
>     >
>     >     A new version of I-D, 
> draft-stone-pce-local-protection-enforcement-00.txt
>     >     has been successfully submitted by Andrew Stone and posted to the
>     >     IETF repository.
>     >
>     >     Name:               draft-stone-pce-local-protection-enforcement
>     >     Revision:   00
>     >     Title:              Local Protection Enforcement in PCEP
>     >     Document date:      2020-03-02
>     >     Group:              Individual Submission
>     >     Pages:              8
>     >     URL:            
> https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-stone-pce-local-protection-enforcement-00.txt
>     >     Status:         
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-stone-pce-local-protection-enforcement/
>     >     Htmlized:       
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-stone-pce-local-protection-enforcement-00
>     >     Htmlized:       
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-stone-pce-local-protection-enforcement
>     >
>     >
>     >     Abstract:
>     >        This document aims to clarify existing usage of the local 
> protection
>     >        desired bit signalled in Path Computation Element Protocol 
> (PCEP).
>     >        This document also introduces a new flag for signalling 
> protection
>     >        strictness in PCEP.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
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> submission
>     >     until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
>     >
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