Hi Shuping,

Thanks for the update. Please see [JM] below.

Cheers,

Julien


On 14/11/2020 07:17, Pengshuping (Peng Shuping) wrote:
> Hi Julien,
>
> Thank you for your comments. We have handled the shepherd review and an 
> update is posted. Please find the diff and responses inline. Thank you!
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-controller/
> and 
> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-controller-07&url2=draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-controller-08
>
> Best regards, 
> Shuping 
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 10:51 PM
>>
>> Hi authors of draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-controller,
>>
>> Please find below my review of the aforementioned I-D.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Julien
>>
>> ---
>>
>> *Main Concerns*
>>
>> - From a PCECC operation stand point, it feels odd that what is referred to 
>> as
>> "basic PCECC LSP setup" is actually PCC triggered, whereas the PCE-initiatied
>> option does exist as well. Even though it adds an additional PCInitiate
>> message, I would suggest to define the latter as the "basic setup", which
>> would not only address that comment, but would also mitigate the following
>> concerns on PCC-triggered setup.
>> - I have 2 issues with PCC-triggered setup:
>>   * it adds LSP characteristics and egress-related information in the ingress
>> PCC, which is not straightforward in a PCECC context (certainly not for a
>> "base setup");
>>   * the behavior triggered by the initial PCRpt is implementation-specific in
>> the PCE: as per section 5.8.3 of RFC 8231, I could configure my PCE to just
>> store the reported info, or make it wait for whatever event before actually
>> starting something ("PCE *decides* to update the LSP", "the PCE *can*
>> modify LSP parameters of delegated LSPs").
>>   => Assuming the PCC-triggerred option is really needed, this limitation
>> should be more explicit.
> The order has been changed and the text is added to say that in case of 
> PST=PCECC it SHOULD calculate and set up the path based on the PCECC 
> technique.
[JM] Thank you for the changes. I believe both of them do improve the I-D.

>> - At the end of section 6.1, some errors are defined with respect to the
>> number of CCI objects in a message. If the ingress PCE has a particular role
>> (e.g. PLSP-ID allocation), how do other PCCs know if they are transit or
>> egress to be able to check the number of CCIs they get?
>> AFAIU, at 1st setup, only inconsistencies between the O bit and the number
>> of CCIs can trigger an error; on LSP updates the node may add an additional
>> check with respect to its role before the update: those situations need to be
>> clarified.
> The source and destination are part of the LSP-IDENTIFIERS TLV, that can help 
> identify Ingress, egress and Transit. The text has been added for that.
[JM] Fine, thanks.

>> - There is no reference to RFC 8741. Is it applicable? If so, then how?
> Added.
[JM] OK, fine.

>> *Nits*
<snip>

>> - Figure 1: all figures have the same message ordering, though the order only
>> matters when using PCC-allocated labels (leaving initial and last messages
>> apart); have you considered shuffling the message order a bit on figures for
>> PCE-allocated cases?
> It's true from the point of view of the messages on wire and thus we don't 
> put this in the specification, but internally the PCE would still allocate 
> label from the internal space from Egress towards Ingress as it would need to 
> make sure the in-label and out-label matches and processing would be in the 
> same order. Thus it is better to keep the ordering the same!
[JM] This looks implementation specific to me. I don't see anything
precluding pushing multiple CCIs in parallel, relying on crankback by
updating both ends of a link in case of initial allocation issue. I
agree on one thing: shuffling the figure may not be worth the effort.
[JM] By the way, some of the arrows on the figures deserve to be polished:
  * end point alignment, space vs. dash...
  * spacing after comas are inconsistent (no space seem to be readable).

<snip>

>> ------
>> Section 12.
>> ---
>> - The following references may be moved from Normative to Informative:
>>   * RFC 7420,
>>   * RFC 7225,
>>   * RFC 8126,
>>   * RFC 8174,
>>   * RFC 8233.
>>
> Moved RFC 7420, RFC 7525.
> RFC 8126, RFC 8174 are kept as Normative as per recently published RFCs.
> RFC 8233 is a wrong reference, it should be RFC 8232 (and moved to 
> informational).
[JM] Fine for 8174. RFC 8126 is targeted to document authors, it isn't
mandatory reading for readers/implementers. But that's a super-nit I'd
be happy to defer to the RFC Editor. ;-)


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