Hi Ketan,

Thank you for your comments. Regarding to your three points, please find our 
responses below.


1)      Are you referring to an architecture kind of draft on Path MTU? 
Including collection, calculation/comparison, selection, enforcement to the 
headend? We are open to have such draft but would like to get the guidance from 
the Chairs of these working groups whether it is needed since there have been 
several PMTU drafts adopted already in each WG. But we don’t think this should 
be taken as a reason to stop the adoption of this draft because it has all the 
information that needs to be adopted in the PCE WG.



2)      In PCEP, the METRIC object as per RFC5440 is used for both a) and b). 
In this draft, we defined a new type of METRIC object.


3)      Yes, this is applicable for both RSVP-TE and SR Policy.


Thank you!

Best Regards,
Shuping



From: Ketan Talaulikar [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, April 4, 2022 10:05 PM
To: Dhruv Dhody <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Pce] WG Adoption of draft-li-pce-pcep-pmtu-05

Hello,

I do not believe this document is ready for adoption. I believe the WG perhaps 
needs to discuss some basic concepts before taking up this work.

Please note that I do not object to (what I infer is) the motivation for this 
work. This document is not (yet) a good starting point for this work.

1) We need a SPRING WG document that covers the considerations related to Path 
MTU for SR Policies. We do not have such a document today. While this document 
does touch upon certain aspects, it is inadequate. This document should focus 
more on the PCEP protocol aspects and rely on the existing RSVP-TE spec RFC3209 
and TBD for SR Policy for the application to the respective constructs. Note 
that draft-ietf-idr-sr-policy-path-mtu introduces this PMTU for BGP SRTE [*]

2) There seems to be some degree of mixup between the concept of (a) constraint 
for the path and (b) the reporting of the calculated path MTU of the path. Both 
are perhaps needed, but we need them to be unambiguous and differentiated. I 
would think that (a) is also very useful. And I am not sure if it is 
appropriate to refer to (b) as a "metric" - isn't it a property?

3) This is applicable for both RSVP-TE and SR Policy.

[*] What I see is that some amount of uncoordinated protocol spec development 
related to SPRING constructs is happening in the protocol-specific WGs (PCE & 
IDR) without the base work being done in the SPRING WG. I had raised this point 
during the IDR document adoption as well: 
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/ZrN1-Uw1ggyxKeltBICmcthjymM/

Thanks,
Ketan



On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 9:40 PM Dhruv Dhody 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi WG,

This email begins the WG adoption poll for draft-li-pce-pcep-pmtu-05.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-li-pce-pcep-pmtu/

Should this draft be adopted by the PCE WG? Please state your reasons - Why / 
Why not? What needs to be fixed before or after adoption? Are you willing to 
work on this draft? Review comments should be posted to the list.

Please respond by Monday 11th April 2022.

Thanks!
Dhruv & Julien
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