Adrian,

I assume the authentication mechaisms will be described in furure revs of
PCEP, as well as key distribution mechanisms to interpret encrypted EROs.

Ia my assumption correct?

Thanks,
Igor

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> Igor,
>
> Are you saying that PCEP doesn't have any authentication?
> If it doesn't it will have!
>
> No way it will get through IESG review without that.
>
> Adrian
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Igor Bryskin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Rich Bradford (rbradfor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
>
> Rich,
>
> My point is that path(s) containing PKSs will also contain address of the
> ASBR, hence the PCC can issue a request to the PCC pretending that it is
> the ASBR and resolve PKSs into explicit path segments. Your draft says
> that this resolution is accomplished via a PCEP request, and my
> understanding is that PCEP does not have any protection from such
> impersonation.
>
> Thanks,
> Igor
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Rich Bradford (rbradfor)
>   To: Igor Bryskin ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>   Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 4:31 PM
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> I-DACTION:draft-rbradfor-ccamp-confidential-segment-00.txt
>
>
>   Igor, thanks for the question.
>
>
>
>   If I understand the question correctly, then a PCE which was configured
> to supply PKSs to any PCC outside the AS would also be configured not to
> decode the PKS for any PCC outside the AS.
>
>   -- Rich
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>   From: Igor Bryskin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 4:22 PM
>   To: Rich Bradford (rbradfor); [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Subject: Re: [Pce] RE:
> I-DACTION:draft-rbradfor-ccamp-confidential-segment-00.txt
>
>
>
>   Hi,
>
>
>
>   I'd like to know what prevents a curious/malicious PCC after receiving
> form a PCE paths with PKSs to impersonate an ASBR and resolve the PKSs
> into explicit segments?
>
>
>
>   Thanks,
>
>   Igor Bryskin
>
>     ----- Original Message ----- 
>
>     From: Rich Bradford (rbradfor)
>
>     To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>     Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>     Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 3:06 PM
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>     Subject: [Pce] RE:
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>
>
>
>     Dear WG,
>
>
>
>     Just to let you know that a new ID has been posted proposing a simple
> extension to the ERO to allow path segments in separate ASs to remain
> confidential. There are indeed various circumstances that require
> "encoding" a path segment in some form. I've included the abstract below.
> Note that this ID may eventually be split to be discussed separately in
> CCAMP and PCE but we prefer to start with a single ID first to be
> discussed in CCAMP.
>
>
>
>     Comments are very welcome.
>
>
>
>     Thanks,
>
>     Rich
>
>
>
>
>
>     To: [email protected]
>
>     Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-rbradfor-ccamp-confidential-segment-00.txt
>
>     Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>
>     A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> directories.
>
>
>
>
>
>               Title                  : Protocol Extensions for Signaling
>
>                               Confidential Path Segments in Multiprotocol
>
>                               Label Switching Traffic Engineering.
>
>               Author(s)          : R. Bradford, et al.
>
>               Filename           :
> draft-rbradfor-ccamp-confidential-segment-00.txt
>
>               Pages               :
>
>               Date                 : 2006-3-1
>
>
>
>     Routes for Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) Label Switched Paths
>
>     (LSPs) may be computed by Path Computation Elements (PCEs). Where the
>
>     LSP crosses multiple domains such as Autonomous Systems (ASs) the
>
>     path may be computed by multiple PCEs that cooperate, with each
>
>     responsible for computing a segment of the path.
>
>
>
>     However, in some cases such as when ASs are administered by separate
>
>     Service Providers, it would break confidentiality rules for a PCE to
>
>     supply a path segment to a PCE in another domain. This issue may be
>
>     circumvented by returning a loose hop and by invoking a new path
>
>     computation from the domain boundary LSR during LSP setup as the LSP
>
>     enters the second domain, but this technique has several issues
>
>     including the problem of maintaining path diversity.
>
>
>
>     This document allows a PCE to provide a full path, but to hide the
>
>     contents of a segment of that path called the Confidential Path
>
>     Segment (CPS). The CPS may be conveyed in the PCE Communication
>
>     Protocol (PCEP) and signaled in a Resource Reservation Protocol
>
>     (RSVP) explicit route either by replacing it with a path key or by
>
>     encrypting it.
>
>
>
>
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