Hi Greg,
 
Sorry for the delay in replying. I'm working on this topic since a while so 
yes, it's interesting. Before going on specific issue I would have some 
question/clarification regarding the draft itself. 
 
 
* Within Abstract and the following.
You don't talk about Optical Cross Connects (OXC) is something missing or 
understated somewhere?
 
 
* Section 3.1 where you state: 
"A fixed mapping between the 
GMPLS label space and these ITU-T WDM grids as proposed in [Otani] "
Does it implies a sort of network level label space? How relate with usual 
local label significance?
 
 
* Section 3.4 Wavelength Converters 
"Current or envisioned contexts for wavelength converters are : ..."
Could we think to a description/model for wavelength converter that is 
technology agnostic? Simply something like: full conversion capability, partial 
conversion capability with some constrains, and may be others.
 
 
* Section 3.4. the following: 
"4. Wavelength converters that are O-E-O based will have a restriction 
based on the modulation format and transmission speed" 
Not clear to me the type of restriction here when OEO happens... probably I'm 
missing what you mean here.
 
 
* Section 4.1 when you talk about Lightpath temporal characteristics:
"Lightpath connection duration has typically been thought of as 
approximately three time frames: " 
and the following you define: dynamics, pseudo-static, static.
Why there's a need of this classification? When you us Short/long is compared 
to what?
 
 
minor typo on your mail below: point (c) rfc4328 (not 4238) right?
 
Thanks,
Giovanni


 

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        From: Greg Bernstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
        Sent: giovedì 27 settembre 2007 1.42
        To: ccamp; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        Subject: [Pce] Some key issues with Wavelength Switched Optical 
Networks...
        
        
        Hi folks, I haven't seen too many comments on our draft "Framework for 
GMPLS and PCE Control of Wavelength Switched Optical Networks" ( 
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-bernstein-ccamp-wavelength-switched-01.txt).
 So I figured I'd point out some potentially controversial issues that the 
draft brings up. 
        
        (a) The draft brings up models for the following WDM network elements:
        

        1.      WDM links 
        2.      Optical transmitters
                
        3.      Wavelength Converters and OEO regenerators 
        4.      ROADMs, FOADMs, optical splitters and combiners. 

            For items (3) and (4) we are taking the modeling lead rather than 
some other SDO.  And for ROADMs, in particular, we going beyond the classic 
ITU-T "fabric" model (M.3100) which has been the mainstay of any connection 
oriented switch (TDM, ATM, MPLS).
        
        (b) The draft brings up three (not one, not two, but three) different 
computational models for RWA which can impact GMPLS and PCE protocols:
        

        1.      A single PCE computing both the path and wavelength 
        2.      Two distinct PCEs, where one computes the path, and a different 
PCE computes the wavelength assignment 
        3.      A PCE computes the path and wavelength assignment is 
accomplished in a distributed fashion via signaling (e.g., using label set 
objects) 

            Do we really need all three models?
        
        (c) G.709 includes the Optical Multiplex Section and Optical Channels.  
RFC4238 was aimed at GMPLS extensions for G.709  (Optical Transport Network) 
control.  Weren't we finished with all this optical stuff years ago?
        
        I'd like to think the draft answers some of these questions.  I also 
think that network element models and the process models are important enough 
to warrant this separate framework document.  Your opinions are solicited.
        
        Regards
        
        Greg B.
        
        -- 
        ===================================================
        Dr Greg Bernstein, Grotto Networking (510) 573-2237
        

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