I get absolutely nothing -- I tried to zap the pram,
nothing.
No CD starts this up.
The monitor continues to display the amber light --
have tried a different monitor just to rule that out.
I took the RAM out thinking I might get some death
chimes -- nope.
Could the SCSI devices (all internal) set themselves
to a different address by themselves? I removed
everything external.
I'll try to find a brand new battery today. 
Thanks for your help.
pat

> > My 8600 refuses to start up. I had to do a hard
> > shutdown 2 weeks ago. Then I got it to start up a
> > couple of times from a zip rescue disk (wouldn't
> read
> > any system disk). Then, the same day, just no
> start.
> > No chimes.
> >
> > I've tried the following things:
> > replace the PRAM battery (granted, I'm not sure if
> the
> > replacement was good either since I found it in
> some
> > supplies) BTW, can anyone tell me which way it's
> > supposed to go into the slot -- I swear it came
> out
> > reversed from what the icons indicate.
> 
> The PRAM battery in the 8600 is 3.6 volts, and if
> the voltage drops by more than
> about 15% the computer will begin to exhibit
> problems -- the greater the voltage
> drop, the bigger the problems.  The battery is
> supposed to go into the holder just
> the way the icons indicate: positive to + and
> negative to -.  If you don't have a
> meter to check the voltage, then your best bet is
> just to buy a new battery...they
> cost about $11 at your local Radio Shack.
> 
> > Unhooked the HDs, zip, cd, and tried to start.
> > Took all the ram out and tried to start.
> 
> The 8600 didn't come with any built-in RAM, so if
> you remove all the DIMMs, the
> computer will not start up, regardless of the
> battery.
> 
> > Took the Sonnet G3 upgrade card out, reset the
> CUDA,
> > put it back in (I don't have another to test that
> > part)
> >
> > Any ideas? The HDs spin up, if the disk is in the
> Zip
> > it tries to go --
> > But absolutely NO chimes at all.
> 
> Have you checked to see whether there are any SCSI
> conflicts, i.e., more than one
> device on the same SCSI address?  Have you checked
> to see that the speaker leads are
> connected (yeah, that's a long shot).
> 
> > Appreciate any help. Power supply? Mother board?
> Any
> > "easy" way to test those things?
> 
> If the drives power up and the fan turns on, then
> it's unlikely that there's anything
> wrong with the power supply.  A motherboard problem
> isn't out of the question.
> TechTool Pro may supply you with a few answers as to
> the health of certain components
> on the MB, including RAM.  If you're able to boot
> from the TechTool Pro CD and run
> the program, then we can assume that the CPU is OK,
> too.  Also, if you have
> DiskWarrior, boot up on that CD and check-out your
> boot drive (that is, if
> DiskWarrior is able to see it).  But the first thing
> I'd do is make absolutely sure
> the battery is good.  I've worked on a lot of Macs
> that were DOA, but were able to be
> resuscitated by simply plopping in a new battery. 
> The older Macs -- pre G3 -- were
> more prone to this sort of problem.  And, as an
> afterthought, try zapping PRAM at
> startup to see if that has any effect.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> herb
> 


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