>From: Jeff Drummond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 12:26:44 -0500 (CDT)

>Sorry to follow-up my own post, but I think I've found my problem.  \o/
>
>After trying more approaches than I care to mention, I finally started
>pulling out memory DIMMs and the problem disappeared.  With some trial
>and error, I traced the problem to, oddly, my two *newest* DIMMs--two
>128 MB FPM 4K refresh DIMMs that I purchased from Other World Computing--

>Note: these DIMMs work *fine* with a slower G3 ZIF processor; they only
>appear to cause a problem in conjunction with my 500 MHz G3 ZIF.  I ran
>memory tests (TechTool and ramometer) on these DIMMs with both the old and
>new processor, but they didn't find any problems.  Whatever's causing the
>problem may only be happening at startup/restart.

Did you test using the RAM Sandwich method?   The problem with the 
software testers is that they cannot test the RAM in which the OS is 
residing.  So even if you get a good result from, e.g., RAMometer, 
you don't know for sure that your memory is good.

When Velocity Upgrades first came on the scene with affordable RAM 
this drove me crazy.  My second order from them obviously contained 
some bad DIMMs but I kept getting inconsistent results as to which 
DIMM was the problem until I tested systematically in the sandwich 
configuration.

To test a DIMM in a PowerSurge family machine, put a known good DIMM 
in A1 and another in A4.   These DIMMs need to be big enough to hold 
the OS, but the smaller they are the faster your testing will go.  I 
usually use a pair of 64s here.   Then place a DIMM or DIMMs to be 
tested in A2 and/or A3.  Run RAMometer at least 1300 iterations 
(that's the highest iteration at which I've heard of a consistent 
failure).   Note that you can replace A with B in all the 
designations above.

If you don't have known good DIMMs, try the RAM sandwich until you 
get a failure free run.  The DIMM(s) in the middle (A2, A3) are 
probably good.  You can't be sure about the ones in A1 and A4.  Use 
the newly validated DIMMs as your bread and test away.

Jeff Walther


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