"Charles W. Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted: I think the hangup is that the installer sees the drivers installed by a later system and gets confused.
Charles "Martin A. Totusek" wrote: Dear Mr. Johnson, Thank you for your Reply; I'm continuing to hear about folks formatting their internal hard disks with APPLE's Drive Setup 2.0.7, then installing different versions of the "Classic" Mac OS (a combination of Mac OS 8.6, Mac OS 9.0.4, & Mac OS 9.1 and/or 9.2.x boot volumes quite often needed for various hardware and software compatibilities) and/or OS X, but then finding that their Power Macintosh then refuses to boot off their pre-Mac OS 9.1 or pre-Mac OS 9.2.x volumes. Is the issue from APPLE's Drive Setup 2.0.7 formatting and/or driver updates, or perhaps something else that the NeXT-ers currently running APPLE have done that causes these types of issues? -Martin Totusek P.S. Re: "System 9.2 and above, however, doesn't run on many of these older Macs, at least not without system hacks." Yes, I'm aware of Mac OS 9 Forever.com - OS 9.2.x for Old World Machines <http://www.os9forever.com/os92x.html>, TechnoWarehouse, LLC TechCache OS X Software <http://www.TechnoWarehousellc.com/downloads.html>, XPostFacto (OS X for Legacy Macs) by Ryan Rempel <http://eshop.macsales.com/OSXCenter/XPostFacto/>, and Sonnet PCI X <http://www.sonnettech.com/downloads/osx_upgrade_sw.html>... c. Charles W. Moore Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 12:51:31 -0700 From: Bruce Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: APPLE's Drive Setup 2.0.7 - Inquiry Martin A. Totusek wrote: > I've been asked if Mac users can format hard disks on older PowerMacintoshes (that > originally shipped with one of the following: 601, > 603, 603e, 604, 604e PowerPC CPUs, G3 CPUs, including "Beige" G3s, older iMacs, "Blue & > White" G3s, and G4 CPUs like the "YIKES" G4s, and the original "SAWTOOTH" G4s) with APPLE's > Drive Setup 2.0.7 and then install any of the following OS versions if their machine(s) are > supported: Mac OS 8.1, 8.5, 8.5.1, 8.6, 9.0, 9.0.4, 9.1 or 9.2.x? Drive Setup and OS install have little or nothing to do with each other. Drive setup installs the drivers and formats the disk. The OS install will ask to update the drivers...if it can't it fails gracefully and continues with the OS install. You can then install any supported OS. Whether you can *run* the 2.07 Drive Setup is another story; but a version of drive setup that formats the drive should work without a problem. Now, if the question you're asking is 'Can I format and install the OS on one computer and move the drive to another?' the answer is maybe. >From OS 8.0 to OS 9.1 definitely yes, though some system-specific items may be missed and have to be installed via the custom option. I installed OS8.0 on my 540C Powerbook in this fashion, by connecting it via SCSI Drive mode and using my 7600 to install it. I was careful to specify that I wanted an OS for 'Any kind of Macintosh'; a subsequent install of the 8.1 updater overwrote the OS with a PPC version. Once I re-installed OS8, I copied the 8.1 updater to the Powerbook, booted it in 8.0 and ran the updater just fine. System 9.2 and above, however, doesn't run on many of these older Macs, at least not without system hacks. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 12:28:09 -0700 From: "Martin A. Totusek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: APPLE's Drive Setup 2.0.7 - Inquiry I've been asked if Mac users can format hard disks on older Power Macintoshes (that originally shipped with one of the following: 601, 603, 603e, 604, 604e PowerPC CPUs, G3 CPUs, including "Beige" G3s, older iMacs, "Blue & White" G3s, and G4 CPUs like the "YIKES" G4s, and the original "SAWTOOTH" G4s) with APPLE's Drive Setup 2.0.7 and then install any of the following OS versions if their machine(s) are supported: Mac OS 8.1, 8.5, 8.5.1, 8.6, 9.0, 9.0.4, 9.1 or 9.2.x? The only reference I can find at all is an APPLE Drive Setup version history page on APPLE's site (AppleCare Document: 22167 Apple Hard Disk: Driver Matrix - Drive Setup <http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=22167>), but it contains no information as to which Drive Setup versions are compatible with which Traditional and/or Mac OS X OS versions. Patricia Corrigan's "Hard Drive Partition" question to Charles W. Moore <http://www.applelinks.com/articles/2002/10/20021014121013.shtml#66> is regarding the very same type of issue: ----------------------------- Hard Drive Partition >From Patricia Corrigan I noticed in your review of David Pogue's book, you mentioned that you have partitioned your hard drive and are able to run OS 9 and OS 8.5 (and OS 8.1). How did you do that? I just installed a 60GB hard drive on my G3 minitower, and put three partitions on it. I then installed 9.2.1 on the largest partition, and want to install 8.5 on a smaller one so that I can continue to play older games. However, every time I try to install 8.5 I get a message that Drive Set cannot be opened or fails. Is there anyway to now install 8.5 after 9.2.1 was in{s}talled and the drivers updated? Any help would be greatly appreciated. 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