Re: October 2002 ATI Retail Update, OpenGL, Mac OS 8.6 - 9.1 question from Charles Moore at Applelinks
Dear Charles, I read your online question asking if the new October 2002 ATI Retail Update could also be made to work under OS 9.1, given the OpenGL 1.2.2 or higher requirements? The OpenGL 1.2.4 (or higher) extensions work fine under at least Mac OS 8.6 through Mac OS 9.1, as well as under Mac OS 9.2.x via extracting them with TomeViewer 1.3d3, as long as you also have the complete QuickDraw 3D extensions (which I believe the older OpenGL 1.2.1 installer also provides) installed, as OpenGL under Mac OS 8.1 though Mac OS 9.2.2 basically works in the same fashion (quite unlike the OpenGL in OS X, which is quite different from the word go as OS X doesn't use Mac OS extensions, apart from the "Classic" Emulation Environment). After first adding the OpenGL 1.2.4 (or higher), QuickDraw 3D, just to be safe, backup anything/everything then of your current ATI, OpenGL and QuickDraw Extensions (and anything else you've added graphic Extension-wise), and Control Panel first, before you apply the update. You do get a warning message from the new ATI installer (this newer "October 2002 ATI Retail Update" replaces the bad one from a week before it) that you are not running OS 9.2.x or X, but also get a "continue" option button. If anything conflicts let me know, as I hope to make sure that this combination works in general on most machines to date (I seem to recall that there are/were a couple models that APPLE stated have problems with certain APPLE and/or ATI updates, which is why their old APPLE OpenGL/QD 1.2.1 installer was made to give a message stating that and then quit, so as to not install on those models...). See related links for some background information: Yahoo! Groups : macdrivers Messages : Message 334 of 392 [Summary] OpenGL 1.2.4 or higher & ATI Radeon Mac Edition PCI under OS 8.x <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/macdrivers/message/334> (Note: The following techsurvivors.net link doesn't always work, and I've emailed them an inquiry about it) [Summary] OpenGL 1.2.4 or higher & ATI Radeon Mac Edition PCI under OS 8.x <http://www.techsurvivors.net/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=007532#000007> Other World Computing- Product Reviews: Installing OpenGL 1.2.1 on a system running Mac OS 8.6 <http://eshop.macsales.com/Reviews/Framework.cfm?page=/benchmarks/opengl86.html> APPLE simply has never updated it's downloadable OpenGL 1.2.1 installer for Mac OS 8.1 through Mac OS 9.x.x, probably again in an attempt to try to force users to only use OS X. The October 2002 ATI Retail Update is working fine under Mac OS 8.6 through Mac OS 9.1 on my 7600/400 MHz Newer Technology G4 CPU upgrade/ATI Radeon Mac Edition PCI. So far all the users who have followed my advice and information have reported back that everything is working under Mac OS 8.6 through 9.1, even on some of the G3 or G4 CPU upgraded (originally 604 or 604e CPU) Mac clones from Daystar, Power Computing and Umax. I also know (and help out) a number of seniors here in Seattle, who have older Mac machines and cannot afford to buy new machines at this time, especially under what has happened economically here in the USA under the past couple years of Bush, Jr.. Therefore, getting things to work under versions of OS 8.x.x and 9.x is also quite helpful to them (mentioning this in cause some people fail to understand why everyone can't just rush out and buy all new machines, even if everything did work booted under OS X, and everything of course does not...). -Martin c. FILE dBug -- PCI-PowerMacs is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... Small Dog Electronics http://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Sonnet & PowerLogix Upgrades - start at $169 | & CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> PCI-PowerMacs list info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/pci-powermacs.shtml> --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; Send list messages to: <mailto:pci-powermacs@;mail.maclaunch.com> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:pci-powermacs-off@;mail.maclaunch.com> For digest mode, email: <mailto:pci-powermacs-digest@;mail.maclaunch.com> Subscription questions: <mailto:listmom@;lowendmac.com> Archive:<http://www.mail-archive.com/pci-powermacs%40mail.maclaunch.com/> --------------------------------------------------------------- >The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---------------------------------------------------------------
