R, I apologize. You were right. You can make bootable CD's using the method you use.
My curiosity got the best of me, so I went into this a bit deeper. In versions before Toast 5, you could not make bootable disks the way you describe. (At least I couldn't find any other way) The manual said to make a Temporary Partition first. Also, to make the disk bootable you had to check the 'bootable' box. When I tried your method (so this means there are two ways to make a bootable disk in Toast 5) when it got to the place to actually burn the disk, there was no 'bootable' check box, and I didn't want to make a coaster, so I aborted at this point. So, this time I did exactly per the manual (pages 18-21) and continued the process. It failed on verification, but the computer booted from the "failed verification" boot CD I had just burned. So, I tried the whole thing again, without using shift/control, and that failed verification too, but would not boot either. When I looked at the CD, I realized it made the CD itself, the system folder, so that is why it won't boot. To those of you who use Toast versions before 5, if you use this method, which is fine and works just like you said it would, you will NOT get a 'bootable' check box, which I was expecting. So, again, I'm sorry. You were right. Both methods work. My method is below and works in Toast 3.5-3.5.7 and 5.0-5.0.2 versions. This is pasted from my original post on my method. <<Twas me. It's not a hack. The reason I started doing this is so I wouldn't have to do an install of, let's say, 8.1, then do the 8.1 to 8.6 update, then reinstall the printer stuff, the CD-RW stuff, etc. Short answer: Set up the computer how you normally use it. Then burn a bootable disc. Long answer: Here's what I did for the system I'm giving my Mom, that didn't have 8.6 on it. You need a program like Toast. You need a burner. In this case, I installed 8.1. Then I upgraded to 8.6. Then I installed the drivers for the USB/FW card. The drivers for the burner I'm giving her. I continued installing everything I could that she'll want one her boot drive except for the stuff (like her Epson driver) on her old computer. Then I set the control panels and preferences. etc. until the computer is set up the way I, or her, would use it. Boot up Toast, and under Utilities, choose "Create Temporary Partition". It will make a CD sized partition on the hard drive space of your choice. Then drag the system folder and any other stuff you might want on the boot CD (I usually put Nortons, and other emergency utilities on it) into the temporary partition. Go back to Toast and choose "Mac Volume". Click on Data, and when the menu comes up, choose the temporary partition and be SURE to check "Bootable". Then, burn your boot CD. That's it. Now, when I get to my Moms, and set up her computer, I'll make another boot CD when she has the computer set up exactly how she likes it. Now, if you wanted to do kinda the same thing, you could copy the original Apple CD to the temporary partition, and drag over the stuff you've added to your normal system folder (like USB drivers) and put them in the System folder in the temporary partition. However, you won't be able to change any of the settings.>> Jeez. I didn't want to waste one blank (cheap) CD to completely try your way, and end up burning 4, just to find out what was going on. I should have trusted you. Come on, you're surely worth a $90 belt, especially to hold up your pants. ;-) STeve - what can I say? << Actually, I am calm. The empty folder thing is easily solved. Rename the folder and move all the files into the new named folder then dump the old one. As for reading, not reading...I do my best. I emphasized read because you didn't seem to accept what I was saying and I wanted to point you to titanium's itterations on the matter. As for shopping Nordstrom's, the reason I went there was to return a belt I decided I felt too guilty about buying there. I mean really, $90 for a BELT. What came over me? I'll tell you what--my pants are now held up by a ratty 10 year old belt and it was TIME for a new one. Only not from there :( Anyhow...why not share your method of making boot disks...step by step, then I might see what I can offer as help, copacetic? R >> -- PCI-PowerMacs is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... 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