Hi Liliana,

> it is very rare for a keyboard to go
> bad, what you experienced was a
> factory defective keyboard,

Good point, about the factory-defective part.
I hadn't thought of that.

Come think of it, the replacement that they sent
me, I'm *still* using - different Mac though. I
haven't ever spilled anything on it (honest - 
weird but true, given how clumsy I am sometimes,
it's a damn wonder), but even the keys that get
regular workouts haven't ever caused any problems
(knock on wood). I pop the key tops off once every
few years to vacuum out the lint and stuff (getting
the spring dealies to go back in the space bar can
be a bit tricky though), but it's been trouble-free.

> probably in that moment they had a
> lot of complaints about it (when
> there's one there's usually more)
> and that's why they had the solution
> at hand,

Could be. I know of at least one other Mac purchased
from the same store, pretty close to when I bought
mine, that had a similar problem. Maybe a bad batch
of keyboards or something, dunno.

> BTW you never mentioned if you had
> to return the bad keyboard to Apple,
> did you have to?

Nope. I asked them about it several times too, to
make sure I wasn't supposed to ship it back to them
or something, and they said "don't bother - just throw
it away." I kept it around for a while, thinking maybe
I might like to someday disassemble it to see what was
in there, but never worked up enough interest and
eventually tossed it out.

> Now that I remember I had a very naughty
> keyboard (not Apple branded)that when I
> typed certain keys it would type several,
> it would happen with the 0 key and one
> or two more,

Hmmm... the following probably wasn't the case for
you, but didn't there used to be some prank extension
or CP or something that would make keyboards type
funny things? Seems like I saw something like that
at one of the "hack" sites several years ago. As I
*vaguely* recall it was programmed to only make the
keyboard act up once in a while, not all the time -
hard to troubleshoot - but I might be getting my
wires crossed there though; but there was some
keyboard prank I'm pretty sure, mighta been different
though. Probably not what you had though. I'm pretty
sure I downloaded it once, quite a while ago, don't
think I ever even unstuffed it except maybe to see
if there was a ReadMe (don't remember). Probably
still have it around, *somewhere* ....

> I've also seen a lot of Mac 512/Plus
> style keyboards in very bad shape,
> which is not rare for their age.

Jeez, ok now I'm off topic - bad! bad! me - but,
Guess what I saw today. Not related to keyboards,
but you might have seen in one my earlier wordy
rambles that I was grumbling about corrosion in
this part of the world? Well I saw something I
couldn't even believe this afternoon, checked out
one of the junkstores in this area and they had a
little - shoot, I forget now - I think it said LC
or something like that - the really thin (low height)
Macs, I think its date was 1991 - well, I'd never
seen one before "in person" and I was curious. It
had those little tabs on it, you know, to open the
case? and I just gave it a tiny little push, and
that part of the case came right off - and -  
horror of horrors  - I couldn't believe what was
in there. The motherboard had so much of that weird
white powdery corroded stuff, and rust-streaks from
the rustable parts, and even the pot-metal or
whatever that stuff is, zinc? or something? had
that extremely built-up white corroded stuff on
it. I had no idea computer motherboards could get
*that* bad!! It was awful. Makes me wanna move!  ;)
I can't imagine how something in that shape could
ever ever work again. It was truly a sight. I
wonder if my Mac will look like that at age 12.
('course, the thing coulda been stored in a leaky
attic or something, who knows... maybe not so
normal after all, not sure)

They wanted like 10 bucks for it - yeah right, 
doubt there was anything salvageable... or not.
The memory chips looked alright, for some reason
they (and the battery, oddly) were just about the
*only* things not covered in that weird corrosion.
Anyway I put the cover back on, looked around some
more, saw an Apple printer that I could have swore
had a SCSI connector on it - Apple made SCSI
printers?? it was really old, had some of that old-
style computer paper, with the thingies on the
edges, still in it. Didn't see a model number
anywhere. It was *really* heavy. Felt like it was
made out of lead.

Ok, I realize I've "used up" my alloted/allowable/
whatever number of words for, well, probably the
remainder of the year at least!  :) so I will
cease-and-desist rambling for a while, now :)
...I hope the original poster gets the problem
solved, I missed out on the earlier part of the topic...

- Jamie Marie
    going home now to install my newly-arrived
    PRAM battery, felt the urge to stop off at
    pub-PC to check email first. (icky PC, yuck)


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