>I am becoming confused about how much is too much for my 6360. all these
>are eBay offers right now for PCI video acceleration cards, and I guess
>I don't understand as much as i thought i did, about what cards can go
>in my 6360 and stay comfortably within its limits. for those who don't
>know the specs of that machine, its stock is 40 mhz bus, 160mz 603e 
>chip, max 136MB RAM, onboard RAM 8MB, cache 256k, but a processor 
>upgradeable to 320 MHz G3 with L2 cache card and up to 1MB L2 cache. 
>has one PCI slot.

Actually the 6360 can take a 400-Mhz G3 upgrade, which plugs in the 
L2 cache slot, replacing the 256K cache. There is a way to upgrade to 
a 500-Mhz processor by swapping the 40-Mhz motherboard with a 50-Mhz 
motherboard.

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>
>  so which of these are too little or too much card for me? and school me
>as to why?

I have a 6360, and far as I can tell the single PCI Slot of the 6360 
is meant to hold a PCI card which is only 7-inches long.  However, I 
have gotten a 12-inch long IxMicro Ultra Rez card to fit by making 
sure the edge of the card slides under the hard drive bay. 
Nevertheless, other cards might be too thick to slide under the drive 
bay.

As far as the size of the video memory on the card, I know of no 
limits. However, the card will need to be a PCI version.  AGP cards 
will not work, they are designed for a different type of expansion 
slot.


I know the ATI Rage 128 16MB PCI OEM Video Card for Mac physical fits 
and works under 9.1, in the 6360.

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>let's say I wanted to be able to do gaming on this machine. can I, and
>how high can i go?


Your biggest problem is the memory limit.  At 136MB of RAM, you hit 
the memory ceiling.  The only way to add more memory is to use 
virtual memory which will slow everything down.

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If your interested, there is an odd way to expand the 6360 (and it 
works, I've done it) ...

Swap the 6360's motherboard/logic board with one from a 6500. You 
have to replaced the 6500's backboard with the 6360's and use the 
6360's PCI bracket.

You also have to use EDO DIMM's instead of FPM.

You would gain the 6500's 50-Mhz bus allowing 500-Mhz Processor 
upgrades, the built-on graphics memory double to 2-Megs and is an ATI 
RAGE II. The 6500's built-in 604 processor comes in speeds of 225, 
275 and 300 Mhz, which are faster than the 6360's 160-Mhz.

If your interested, I think NEXCOMP has 275-Mhz motherboards in stock.

  - Ron.

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