Ive been debating whether I should bother with such a card, and since I dont do anything 3d (games, graphic programs) I will probably not get the card!
Your testing is appreciated! Edgar 8600/g4 800, 512 RAM, audiophile 2496, belkin usb cards, old old Rasterops 20" monitor 5bnc vga --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > A number of you, like me have wondered about the ATI > cards in our PCI Macs, > and the low benchmarks, etc. I got an ATI Radeon > card, and finally resolved > all the issues (Can't open ATI display control > panel) and also did my own > testing, using Nortons, Throughput, MacBench 3.0 a > stopwatch, and my eyes. > First off, let me say that my expectations were > obviously way to high. For > most stuff, I see no speedup. However, I can run > some games I couldn't run > before. Plus, it will use Extreme in OSX. That, and > it's the fastest card for > a PCI Mac, means I'm as satisfied as I can be, given > the machines > limitations. I was curious about all the reports of > "built in video", > benchmarking faster than vitually any card put in a > PCI Mac. So, here's what > I saw. (My system specs listed at the end) > > I ran the tests 1) using the ATI with acceleration > off, 2) Accel on, 3)built > in video (disconnected monitor from ATI and plugged > into built in card) I ran > video at 1152x870 @ 75Hz > > I ran Nortons Video benchmarks without running the > CPU, Disk or FPU tests. > Results: > ATI off 1:00:95 (stopwatch) > ATI on :58:44 (stopwatch) > Built in :58:36 (stopwatch) notice that it was > indeed quickest > This was simple. I timed how long it took for > Nortons to run the video tests. > > Here's what Nortons reported for overall scores: > ATI off 75.7 > ATI on 390.0 > Built in 537.0 > Interestingly, when I looked at the individual test > items, It seemed that ATI > was faster in 6 of the 11 tests, and on three of > them a whole lot quicker. > (Rectangles, Round/Rect & Scrolling) It would be > interesting to see how they > weighted each test, and what each test actually was. > > Just because, I ran the Video tests in MacBench 3.0 > Results: > Graphics Mix Publishing Graphics > Mix > ATI off 27.53 17.66 > ATI on 96.23 63.72 > Built in 63.59 69.07 > The program didn't give individual test results, so > could draw no conclusions. > > Then I used Throughput, which test, well video > throughput, I suspect. It > seems to time how long it moves data from Ram to > Vram using 4 different > methods. Results: > CPU FPU AltiVec > CopyBits > ATI off 23.6 43.9 43.7 > 43.3 > ATI on 23.6 43.9 43.7 > 78.7 > Built in 57.0 112.8 112.6 > 110.0 > Well, what do you make of this? > > So, here are my conclusions. The benchmarks may not > be taxing the video > system hard enough to show the ATI cards potential. > Everybody agrees that you > can really see the difference in 3D mode. Secondly, > I think that the PCI bus > may be really limiting the cards potential. It's > really too bad we can't > somehow hook up the card to the VRAM slots. I think > it would really scream > then. (Maybe that's what an AGP port really is) > Obviously the built in video > is pretty darn good. Look at how much faster it > moves video to and from the > VRAM, vs. the ATI. I'm impressed with Apples stock > video system. Comments > anyone? > > STeve > > My system: > 8600 w/XLR8/G4/450, Sonnett Tempo Trio, ATI Radeon, > 20" SuperMac monitor, 1 > Gig ram, OS9.1, QT 6.02, CarbonLib 1.6, ATI update > 2.10 > > -- > PCI-PowerMacs is sponsored by > <http://lowendmac.com/> and... > > Small Dog Electronics http://www.smalldog.com | > Refurbished Drives | > -- Sonnet & PowerLogix Upgrades - start at $169 | > & CDRWs on Sale! | > > Support Low End Mac > <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> > > PCI-PowerMacs list info: > <http://lowendmac.com/lists/pci-powermacs.shtml> > --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; > Send list messages to: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To unsubscribe, email: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For digest mode, email: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subscription questions: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Archive:<http://www.mail-archive.com/pci-powermacs%40mail.maclaunch.com/> > > Using a Mac? Free email & more at Applelinks! > http://www.applelinks.com > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- PCI-PowerMacs is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... Small Dog Electronics http://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Sonnet & PowerLogix Upgrades - start at $169 | & CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> PCI-PowerMacs list info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/pci-powermacs.shtml> --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; Send list messages to: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Archive:<http://www.mail-archive.com/pci-powermacs%40mail.maclaunch.com/> Using a Mac? Free email & more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
