>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: PCI standards and USB card
>
>Mike,
>
>What specs are you looking far? I'm sure you can find them at each vendors
>web site.

STeve>
>
><< Thanks, but in order for that to be of any  help with my question I
>need to know what PCI specifications those cards use. I'm sure the
>7600 and 8600 PCI slots are 2.0,  same as my 8500. -  Mike >>

There isn't a subject for this list that is more "on-topic" but after 
2+ days still no real definitive answers, although Jeff D. was 
helpful and now that you've told me one of your cards is PCI 2.1 and 
it was working (well?) on a 7600 I can surmise the answer.

So I've tweaked the subject line and I will rephrase the question for clarity:

To what degree are 2.1 and 2.2 PCI cards compatible with older 
powermacs with PCI 2.0 slots (which is basically all pre- G3s)? 
Downward compatibility is the issue. I'm not looking for  card specs 
I am looking for  peoples experiences based on their PCI slot specs 
and cards they use in those slots.

This started because I kept hearing/reading  about how easy it is to 
get USB on a  non-USB PCI Mac. I asked advice & was told as long as 
it was OHCI USB 1.1 compliant the card should work (8500/PL G3/384 
MB/OS 8.6). Installed Apple card support 1.4.1 and some individual 
vendors drivers. Card showed up in ASP but didn't work. Could be the 
G3 upgrade but also didn't realize until that point that the USB card 
was PCI 2.2 and decided to start there in determining the problem. 
After searching out the various available PCI cards,
they all appear to be PCI 2.1 or 2.2 so I had to wonder if other 
owners of 2.0 PCI macs found 2.0 cards for their machines or are 
successfully using the higher specification cards? Especially 
interested in the people who also have G3/G4 upgrades for those 
machines.

Mike




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