What setting do you need to get the router to see both machines. Setup  
a router with 2 macs, and sure, I don't have setting correct as don't  
see either machine on either desktop?
On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 10:12 AM, Sionnach Aisling wrote:

>
> Sorry, I'm jumping into the middle of this becasue I
> just started following this thread now... But here's
> my two cents...
>
> First off, a lot of good information has flowed
> through here.  If it leaves your head spinning or
> doesn't make sense straight away, I'd fall back on
> Dan's earloer suggestion "get a router" ;-)
>
> Let's clarify...  Generally speaking, most high speed
> ISP's will only allow you to connect one machine to
> the internet through their service.  They assign that
> machine a specific IP address that it can use to do
> so.  If you have multiple machines and want them to
> access the internet as well, they will usually sell
> you additional IP addresses at additional cost. Should
> you wish to go this route, a hub or switch will do
> just fine for you with no other equipment.  But
> frankly, your paying a premium for high speed access
> anyway.  By adding a router (or a proxy server) you
> can connect many machines (more than you'll ever use)
> onto the single internet connection without having to
> pay for additional IP addresses from your ISP.
>
> The difference between a router and a proxy server is
> that the router is a piece of hardware, and is
> self-contained, easy to setup, adn easy to maintain.
> It also doesn't require additional overhaed on any of
> your computers.  A proxy server will require two
> network cards in one of the machines (the one it's
> installed on) and it is a piece of software that runs
> on that particular machine and basically emulates the
> same functions as the router.
>
> If you don't know all the ins and outs of setting up
> an IP network, subnetting and the like, then do
> yourself a favor, don't try to setup a proxy server,
> and go buy a router.  It's an investment that will
> cost you less than $100, is basically plug and play,
> and will be well worth it for all the headaches you'll
> save.
>
> If your a die hard and want to configure the proxy
> server, then by all means, set it up.  Generally, if
> you have the extra network cards, you can setup the
> proxy server for free and save yourself the $50-$70
> the router will cost you.
>
> If your going to setup a proxy server, put it on your
> fastest machine!  It will take up processing power
> (not a lot) from teh machine it runs on all the time
> (whether your online or not).
>
> I've gotta tell you...  I've got a good background in
> networking.  I've run both at home.  A year ago, I
> shut down my proxy server (running on a Windows 98 PC
> and servicing three other windows PC's and three Macs)
> and bought a router.  I was tired of the headaches and
> hassles of upkeeping the proxy server and making
> everythign work.  I have no regrets.  The router does
> everythign my proxy server did, but I don't have any
> of the overhead work that I had before.
>
> I would totally recommend a router to anyone wnating
> to share an internet connection who doesn't have a lot
> of experience in metworking.
>
> As for Mike (I think it was) who bought a hub (or a
> switch - I don't remember) cause the guy at the
> computer store told him thats what he'd need...  The
> guy at the computer store was right, if you want to
> pay your ISP additional cash for each machine you want
> to connect.  Otherwise, the router is what you wanted.
>  But, since you have the hub, you could buy a router
> without an integrated switch which would be a little
> cheaper...  keep your hub and use that as well.  Would
> it be cost effective? Dunno... Have to look and see...
>
> Cheers,
> Sionnach
>
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