At 05:42 PM -0500 04/01/2003, Mark Ginn wrote:
>I've got an 8600/G3 that has started having problems with Internet
>Explorer crashing on certain sites with photos, and now it's refusing
>to shut down.
>
>Also, last night, I tried to shut down, and it just sat there. I tried
>again, and a dialog popped up saying that I've already done that, and I'd
>have to wait until all the apps quit. There was nothing running, except
>for the finder.
>
>I've emptied IE's cache, deleted all cookies, and erased the history.
>Any ideas on what to try next ?

Shutdown hangs, when there's nothing running except the Finder, are 
often caused by file system database corruptions.  The 2nd most 
frequent cause is corrupted prefs files.

Boot with exts off and run Disk First Aid on all your disk volumes. 
If that doesn't fix it, boot with exts off and trash your Finder and 
System pref files.  If that doesn't fix it, turn off all your 3rd 
part extensions...

Consider installing MacsBug.  Very convient.  When the Finder hangs, 
you can drop into MacsBug with cmd-Power and take a look to see what 
files are still open/mapped.  And you can politely quit the Finder 
and restart it - which will let you complete the shutdown in an 
orderly fashion.


>I'm thinking it might be time to reformat the drives, and reinstall the
>OS and everything else. YUKKK! (Just in time for TurboTax!!)

Um, yea.  That's a good Microsoft Windows mind-set: when something 
goes wrong the entire OS must be screwed up.  Aren't you glad your 
car mechanic doesn't feel that way when your spark plugs are fouled?

- Dan.

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