First of all.....find a cheap 7200//75 on eBay or wherever and transplant
the mobo into it. I've done....like 40 of these "Frankenmac" conversions and
access to everything becomes a walk in the park instantly! If it still is a
boggle...say.....bye-bye to said mobo.  Just a suggestion      Mikie
> I went through a huge annoyance with my 8500 recently.
> First of all these old cases are annoying.  Making
> changes to the cards on the motherboard is time
> consuming, for each troubleshooting step requires
> dis-reassembly.  
> 
> I added some ram and insta-crash.  So pull new ram,
> still insta-crash.  Ultimately I ended up pulling
> everything off the board but one stick of ram,
> processor and ixmicro video hard.  The cache card had
> gone bad.  So as time consuming as it is, I'd pull
> everything and start adding things back in 1 at a
> time.  It took hours, literally.
> 
> As for slow booting, these machines do boot slow when
> working correctly with decent ram and a good extension
> set.  G4's make these look like molasses.  I'd turn
> off the memory test if possible as well.
> 
> Of course it could be the motherboard...
> 
> Mike wrote:
> 
> 9500/132 MHz, OS 8.6, 64 to 512 MB RAM, IX Micro
> Ultimate Rez Video
> card
> 
> Was slow as molasses booting previously with older RAM
> (1-64MB stick 
> and 4-16MB sticks). All desktop icons would appear
> slowly one at a 
> time until eventually whole desktop was loaded. At on
> time this 
> system worked well but eventually, after several
> different OS 
> installs, then going back to 8.6 performance was still
> s-l-o-w.
> 
> Removed old RAM, Put in  4 new OWC 128 MB sticks of
> RAM, replaced PRAM
> battery.
> No boot. Took apart and tried many different RAM
> configurations, 
> thinking it was problems with the new RAM. This is a
> 9500 case and 
> we're talking 10-20 times, always checking for proper
> seating of 
> processor and video card. Tried CUDA  switch on
> several occasions,
> still no change.
> 
> I got it to boot with different RAM configs and also
> with a my old 
> processor from my 8500. Still the same slow crawl of
> desktop icons 
> appearing at startup. Bigger problem was it would
> freeze up as soon
> as I attempted anything, like clicking to open a
> folder or app or 
> attempting to open Apple System Profiler.
> 
> Tried different keyboard and mouse. Same result.
> 
> Figured I should put the old RAM back and try. Boots
> with the old RAM 
> but freezes at any command or mouse click. Tried with
> extensions off. 
> Still freezes at any action.
> 
> Disconnected HD and tried booting from CD. Freezes at
> first splash 
> screen and will not complete the boot.
> 
> I can't check the system or make any changes because
> it locks up.
> 
> I am starting to think the MB is just bad or otherwise
> I can't figure 
> out what the choke point is when any type of command
> is given. Can 
> the video card be responsible for such behavior?
> 
> I am ready to dump this thing even though I have a G4
> processor and 
> new hard drive standing by to upgrade it.
> 
> I'm looking for good suggestions here or it's soon to
> be sold for 
> parts.
> 
> Thanks - Mike
> 
> 
> 
> 
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