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> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 11:29:51 -0400
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> Subject: Re: [PCI] burner troubles
> 
> At 10:14 AM +1000 10/24/2004, David Elmo wrote:
>> 
>> Cleaning the burner! Cleaning it? Never thought of this... How would I do
>> this? OK I will look into this. Thanks.
> 
> It's amazing how much crud gets inside CD drives.  And if any of the
> dust is on the laser optics or mirror within, it can make the drive
> fairly useless.
> 
> Check your local music store for cleaning kits.  Basically it's a CD
> with itty bitty brushes attached.  You add a couple drops of cleaning
> fluid, then play it for a bit.
> 
> You can also use a can of high-pressure spray air.  Blow the dust out
> of the drive first, then use the cleaning CD.  Might take several
> cleanings...
> 
>> This burner is a Sony CDU926S. It is a blazingly fast max 2x.
> 
> I use an external JVC 2x burner.
> 
> It gets the job done.  That's what counts.
> 
>> The drive reported an error
>> Sense Key = MEDIUM ERROR
>> Sense Code = DX 02
>> No Seek Complete
> 
> According to my JVC's doc, that error means either the CD or the
> drive's optics were dirty.  Use the cleaning kit a few times.  And
> when you get ready to put a blank CD in, give it a quick inspection;
> blow any dust off etc.  DO NOT rub the CD on a cotton cloth, etc.
> Besides the scratches, the static charge will make the CD grab dust
> from within the drive!
> 
> ...Um... One other possibility:  I got that error once when the
> problem wasn't the optics.  The problem was that the directory it was
> trying to write was too big to fit on the free space of the disc.
> More files = bigger directory.  I've found that on a 700 MB CD, I can
> put a dozen video files up to 690 MB worth.  But if I put smaller
> jpgs and such, I have to cut it back to 650 MB or so.
> 
> Keeping track of the size of things is kindof a PITA.  So what I did
> is create several virtual disks, using Disk Copy.  Each is exactly
> 700MB HFS+.  I put the files in there first, THEN burn the whole disk
> image via Toast.


I almost never have trouble with trying to put too much on, well within
limits. The few occasions I did not keep track, Toast said beforehand that
it would not fit on. My trouble happens with tiniest of files too...

Yes, I will clean and see.


>> PS. For my work, I sometimes have to supply CDs and I have been transferring
>> files via zip disk to my daughter's ex PC which has a terrific fast burner
>> in it. The drag is to do things in 100 MB chunks till all is assembled on
>> the PC and the real big problem, absurdly slow transfer times from the zip
>> to PC hard drive (the zip drive on that PC is a 250 MB and well, the 100 MB
>> discs simply are absurdly slow... anyway ...)
> 
> I was doing this with 1 GB JAZ discs.  Had to move the drive itself
> too, 'cause my housemate didn't have one on his PC!  LOL
> 
> Burning hybrid discs with Toast is soooo nice.

I have always seen this option but always choose ISO 9660 when I want a PC
to read, the Mac also reads this. Windows XP and 98SE machines seem happy,
especially XP. Perhaps the hybrid option is more reliable? When I burnt
(notice past tense) I chose "use Mac style names" or some such so that
longer names would appear, at least on the Mac, that awful capitalisation
and truncation of names on the normal option of ISO 9660 is a pain and cause
confusion esp if a number of files have the first 8 or so letters the same.


> 
> At 10:31 AM +1000 10/24/2004, David Elmo wrote:
>> I have suspected the manufacturing of these CDs
>> are for faster burning but I simply don't know. What do they do to a surface
>> to make it capable of various burn speeds but not others? Some are 2x to
>> whatever, others are 4x to whatever, my TDK latest batch says just
>> "multispeed compatible"
> 
> Fewer defects on the higher speed discs, and slight better substrait
> materials.  The high speed discs will work in your 2x burner just
> fine.

This explains the higher limit. But what about the lower? Still puzzling why
some labels say 1x to 48x, others 2x to 48x, others 4x to 48x. If the
quality is high, why not always 1x as the lower limit. Or do they simply not
think anyone in this day and age can go lower than their figure?

 
>> Interested in [Ron's] remarks about authoring extensions. What are these? In
>> Quicktime you mean? Maybe I will turn all these off, I am sure I do not use
>> them for anything I know, I have not got QT Pro yet...
> 
> According to Roxio's web site:
> 
> Roxio's Toast and Apple's Disc Burner have conflicting extensions.
> In order to use Toast (or other 3rd party burning software), these
> extensions should be disabled in the Extension Manager control panel:
> Authoring Support
> Disc Burner Extension
> FireWire Authoring Support
> iTunes Extension
> SDAP Authoring Support
> USB Authoring Support
> 
> But I use Toast 3.5.7 regularly and have never disabled those extensions!

Well, I do not have these extensions anyway? I have run 8.6 and 9.0.4
successfully for ages. The one thing I do disable is Toast Reader extension
as it is known to sometimes conflict with normal CD Rom extensions. There
were a batch of CD blanks I burnt that could not be read by normal CD Rom
readers but could be read in the burner itself with Toast Reader enabled.


> - Dan.


David Elmo


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