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From: "Bruce Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PCI PowerMacs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: [PCI] Sonnet Crescendo PCI upgrade cards and OS X


>
> On Thursday, December 2, 2004, at 07:37 PM, James Fraser wrote:
>
> > on 12-1-04 2:24 PM, Ron at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >> Get yourself a B&W rev. 2 for less than $150.00 usually and a 500MHz
> >> G4
> >> CPU from OWC for about $150.00 and it will kick the 9600's butt for
> >> sure with the 800MHz CPU upgrade.
> >
> > Do you say that solely because of the 50MHz (9600) vs. 100MHz (B&W) bus
> > speed difference?  Does the bus speed bottleneck really mean that a
> > 500MHz
> > CPU will outperform an 800MHz one?  Does anyone have, say, MacBench
> > numbers
> > we could compare for these?
>
> In a CPU benchmark test, the 800 on a 50Mhz bus will outperform the
> 500, but benchmarks lie.
>
> In real life, the 500 will probably perform better, as real life is a
> lot more dependent on I/O. 2X the I/O performance means a lot,
> particularly memory.
>
> My guess is it's time to retire the 8500 as is, or to *nix of some
> flavor.
>
> >
> > As an aside, I'm wondering if the reduction in traffic on this list is
> > due
> > to people fleeing en masse to B&Ws, now that they're so cheap. <shrugs>
> >
>
> Yeah. These old beasts are getting OLD.
>
> --
> "Wherever you go, there you are." - B. Banzai, Ph.D.
> Bruce Johnson
>
>

They still have some uses. My G3-400 equipped 8500 can browse the web and
run OS 9.x apps just fine. The 7500 I use is dedicated to a Radius
Videovision Telecast setup (best run on OS 7.5.x which you can't install on
a G3 beige or up). Probably helps that both systems have a ATA/66 card and
IDE cdroms and HD's. IF OSX is in your future I would get a real G4 equipped
machine with AGP graphics slot, which is why B&W are being dumped cheap
today.






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