> On Feb 8, 2005, at 11:50 AM, Rick McCutcheon wrote:
> 
>> This raises for me the general question of what people are running for
>> virus
>> protection (if anything) on their vintage Macs -- meaning anything
>> running
>> with OS9.x and below.  Any related comments on this subject would be
>> welcome
>> (at least by me!)....  How careful do we need to be given the
>> relatively
>> [sic] diminished problem in the Mac world. (Or is that too quick an
>> assumption?)  Etc.
>> 
>> 
> 
> Nothing.
> 
> I haven't run anything on any mac of mine since the days of
> Disinfectant. No viruses either. The last virus I got on any Mac was
> WDEF, which I cured by upgrading to OS 7.
> 
> Even MS Word and Excel macros aren't very widespread anymore, and
> modern versions of both those programs intercept macros when you open
> the file.
> 
> My opinion is that any company selling Mac antivirus software today is
> committing fraud.
> 
> In the now nearly four years after the introduction of OS X not one
> single virus attacking it has been released. a pathetic proof of
> concept was floated by Intego last year...it amounted to a file with a
> spoofed icon and creator/program types.
> 
> Even MacWorld couldn't find any REAL viruses to show for their pathetic
> OS X security article in the March issue..the illustration shows a
> bunch of Windows viruses.
> 
> Mac users cannot 'inadvertently' pass on Windows viruses, it has to be
> a deliberate act. MS Word and Excel macros don't affect the Mac, and as
> I said are rare in any case.
> 
> The differences between the OS X and Windows security models make it a
> lot harder for viruses to be written for the Mac.
> 
> I'm sure someone will jump in and proclaim that this is just 'security
> though obscurity' or some such claptrap, but it isn't.
> 
> It has ALWAYS been harder to write Mac viruses than PC viruses.
> 
> --
> Bruce Johnson


I too have not run anything since the days of Disinfectant, but have
wondered if I am being foolhardy.  (I'll let everyone know if suddenly I'm
hit -- we'll know how to narrow the field of possible culprits, eh?)
Although I use email a great deal and from multiple accounts I haven't had a
hint of anything bothering my system in the past several years (always
running OS8.1 - 9.1).  I do a lot of research on the internet and there too
I cannot recall anything ever causing problems.  So that does raise the
question in my mind about why several big name companies are selling
high-end products that cost a pretty penny.... hmmm

Now spam, that's a different question and some people may rightly regard it
as a form of virus.  I know I get a lot of that and have to filter it out
and use various tools to minimize/fool it.  But that's a different
discussion (I think) -- what intrigues me is this question of virus, defined
as someone writing a program to deliberately do harm to another person's
computer.  Maybe this is reason enough to stay away from the other world...
(not that I am tempted in the least).

Rick


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