> BeOS will work fine on almost all PCI PowerMacs. It will not work on > NuBus PowerMacs.
Not exactly true : you need an oldworld pre G3 Mac (even pre beige) and need at least a 603 processor. PPC601 is no good even if it is a PCI model. Have a look on the TyComsystems website. ( http://www.tycomsystems.com ) in their BeOS section they have a mirror of Be's old "Mac" ready list of supported models. Most mainstream Macs with a 604 or 604 processor work, including a lot of clones (or those updated with a G3 or G4 but that originally had a 603 or 604 processor) but 4400 are shaky, 8600 and 9600 should be pre Mach motherboard design, no powerbooks work and most of the 62xx and 63xx models do not work as they have odd hybrid mother boards. > Although you can set the computer to start into BeOS, at least a > minimal part of the Mac OS will need to load. Reading between the lines: You need a bootable MacOS partition to bootstrap BeOS. BeOS will not run on a Mac without at least a basic Mac OS installation - though you can hack the MacOS 8.1 Tools floppy to run from a hard drive with resedit, and then you can get away with a mega small Mac OS partition - say 2MB or so. There were instruction on the BeTips server on how to do this. > If you are looking to > create a machine mostly for BeOS, you need to start with a Mac > Installer CD. Use the Drive Setup to create 2 partitions, one small > one for a Mac OS, and another one that you can leave unformatted. You can format both - it reeally doesn't matter. BeOS will reformat the target. If you're a novice, its usually simpler to create two partitions and let MacOS format them. > After you have installed the MacOS on the small partition, start up > the computer with the Mac OS and insert the BeOS CD. You should find > more detailed instructions on the CD, however simply put, install the > items from the BeOS CD that are needed into the Mac partition. Once > those items are installed you can click the Start BeOS icon on the > Mac and the system will do a soft restart and BeOS should boot up > from the BeOS CD. Boot into MacOS. Insert the BeOS install CD. When it mouints you will see a CD called "BeOS tools". Open it, open the "Mac tools" folder, drag "_OSChooser" to the system folder of the Mac OS installation and double click on the "BeOS Loader" app. This will turn your screen black, and then a 3D image of the Be logo will appear. You should then boot into the BeOS installer app... if not restart your Mac and when the OS choser menu appears, select BeOS... as the logo appears hold down the ctrl key until a bboot menu appears. Check you see the boot cd, if not select (with arroe keys) "re scan". The "BeOS Loader" app will often fail from MacOS 8.6, so the _OSChooser is the better option, but requires a full reboot. > BeOS will boot into the installer and from there you can initialize > the partition for Be and select the items you wish installed on the > BeOS system. You don't need to initialize the partition. If you select the "empty" partition you created above, it will automatically be initialized to BFS (there will be a prompt asking you if you want to proceed... just ensure you select the right partition and accept) > The BeOS install will install a boot loader on your > system which will give you an opportunity to select either the BeOS > or MacOS for use. The loader can be configured to default to either > OS with a user determined time delay. No, you do this manually from MacOS. The "boot loader" works the same way that the oldworld Linux bootloader works. It loads as MacOS is booting, and then kicks MacOS out if you select "BeOS" otherwise continues to Mac OS. > The minimal MacOS install for a BeOS machine should be either OS 8, > 8.l, 8.5.x or 8.6. BeOS will boot from 7.53 all the way up to 8.6. However, I have found 8.6 slightly flakey. 8.1 is actually completely reliable, and I never had problems with 7.5.5 either. Make sure you use 8.1 or greater if you want to be able to access HFS+ volumes through Sheepshaver. > BeOS will not start from a minimal OS 9 install. True, it hangs at the 3D logo. > If you plan on running just BeOS it does not matter how you format > your Mac partition, but from within BeOS you can run an application > called SheepShaver, which will allow you to run Mac the Mac OS in a > runtime environment. SheepShaver will not work with HFS+ volumes. Not true. SheepShaver will work with HFS+ volumes so long as the OS you install can handle HFS+. Although it might not boot from an HFS+ volums, I don't remember OTTOMH. Anything prior to 8.1 is not able to read HSF+. BeOS itself can read HFS volumes just fine, but also chokes on HFS+. If you have any further questions, might I point you towards the BeGroovy forums. http://forums.begroovy.com which are probably the more active place to talk BeOS.I'm a member as are 3 or 4 other Mac users that run BeOS. Hope that helps, M -- PCI-PowerMacs is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... 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