Greg, Peter & Ed, thanks for the replies, especially for the
LLF. I did a LLF and that worked. I ran the WD LLF utility
and 'wrote zeros to the drive', formatted using the win98 CD,
installed windows AGAIN, scandisk and defrag worked fine. I
also ran chkdsk again this time is WAS @ 16k clusters.
Evidently the folks at WD didn't LLF this drive correctly the
first time. (original problems this fixed are below in case
anyone else ever has this problem).
Thanks guys, :-)
-Clint
----- Original Message -----
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Clint Hamilton"
No it's in the 'normal mode'. All periph's were in the orig.
post, but since so many choose to <snip> orig. posts to
death, all that gets lost. I pasted the orig. post below
again (plus update). Yes, just the CD was used to format the
first time. Haven't tried a LLF. Yes the drive & size is
seen perfectly in all areas of windows (except recycle bin).
Greg: Scandisk in DOS is fine, floppy is not protected (why
would that matter?)
Hi all, on a new PC for a customer here, I have something
happening I've never seen before. I cannot run scandisk!
when I try to run it, it says "not enough physical memory"!!!
And NOTHING is running in the BG either! I have been
searching for this problem and no surprise, all the links are
bad at that idiot MS website! Using search engines all
I have been able to find that is NOT about "quit programs
running in the background...etc, etc" is for win95 and I
don't understand it:
----------------------
SYMPTOMS
When you try to run ScanDisk, you may receive the following
error message:
Your computer does not have enough available memory to run
ScanDisk now. Quit some running programs, then try running
ScanDisk again.
CAUSE
This error can occur if system policies have been enabled on
the computer, and the profile for the current user includes
the "Hide Drives in My Computer" restriction.
RESOLUTION
The "Hide Drives in My Computer" restriction must be disabled
before the current user can run ScanDisk. Contact your System
Administrator, or have someone with the correct privileges
log on to the computer and run ScanDisk.
----------------------
I don't know what they are talking about there. Can
anyone elaborate on that & tell me where this area
is on win98 if at all? I have never seen it. I changed
the memory settings in the BIOS and that didn't help.
The pc shows the correct amount of RAM @ 128mb,
and all resources are over 95%! At boot up there are
98% system resources available. I tried another stick of
memory, and the same thing happens. Mobo is FIC
SD11, 750mhz slot A Athlon & 128mb RAM, OS is
win98 and it was just formatted. I HAVE used these
mobo's before and never seen this problem with any
of them. Scandisk will not even run in safe mode!
Defrag also will not run. No yellow marks in the DM.
Scandisk CAN be run in DOS OK. The PC works
perfectly, all drivers were installed w/o a hitch, it seems
totally normal in every other aspect! Other devices
are a Diamond S100 PCI sound card, DLink PCI NIC,
STB Nitro II AGP video card. The mobo's drivers
off the CD were the first things installed. HD is
western digital Caviar WD172AA, 17.2gb, UDMA 66,
2mb buffer. All components are new. "Power
Management APM" is disabled in the BIOS. Have
also tried manual memory settings, as well as auto
by SPD.
[addendum]
The HD has been re-formatted using the windows SU
disk, windows CD, and the WD format floppy with
same results. Also does it RIGHT AFTER the
windows install with NONE of the drivers yet installed.
Regardless of format method used, cluster size is
STILL 4096k! All cards have been removed leaving
only the video card, same thing. Different video card
used, same thing.
I ran benchmarking programs; HD Tach, Sandra Pro, and
FreshDiagnose, all were perfect. I've never ever had to
manually set cluster sizes or anything for a HD for that
matter, it's always done by "auto detect HD settings"
in the BIOS. I tried a fixed size
swap file @ 320mb, same thing. LBA is on, 32bit
transfers, and FAT 32. I don't see anything in the AMI
BIOS about the cluster size used. (Award DOES show
cluster size though I THINK).
The size of the HD is being shown correctly in 'my computer',
'msinfo', DOS, and everywhere else except of course for the
recycle bin (which on EVERY win98 PC I have EVER seen, shows
1.99gb REGARDLESS of the size of the HD!!). On a new
format, I installed Sandra Pro again, and it says the cluster
size is 16k. Now I've never noticed cluster sizes before on
any PC because it's NEVER been an issue before. So, if it
must be 4096, then how or why did it get set to 16k?
According to the link you sent, it states: "This issue can
occur if you are running Windows on a hard disk that is
larger than 8 gigabytes (GB) in size and has a cluster size
LESS than 8 kilobytes (KB). This configuration may be created
if you use a third-party disk tool to create a partition on a
hard disk that is larger than 8 (GB) in size and has a
cluster size less than 8 KB. " .........so that must not be
the problem since it's set to 16k and no 3rd party software
was used. ? According to the other text on that page, 16k is
correct for a 17.2gb drive:
Hard disk size Cluster size
-------------------------------
16 GB and larger 16 KB
Chkdsk was used after every format, to determine
cluster size and it shows the cluster size ("allocation
units") @ 4096K regardless.
This statement is not correct:
"The cluster size can be corrected by booting the computer
with a Windows startup disk and reformatting the drive with
the format program on the startup disk."
I did that, and it still shows 4k cluster size for a 17.2gb
HD. Something else odd, on MY pc, I have two 20gb ATA133
drives on a RAID stripe (which is a total of only 20gb) and
they have 32k clusters!
Can't do a LLF, I run FDISK and it says: not a fixed
drive present!!!
-Clint
God Bless Us All
Clint Hamilton, Owner
http://OrpheusComputing.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Kaulback" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Are you by chance running in "compatibility mode"?
What cards are installed on the system?
Have you tried installing with only the vid card installed?
So you have used the WD disk to format the drive, the windows
su disk to
format the drive, have you used the win cd to format the
drive? I know it's
tedious but I had a similar event installing win2k between
the su disk's
and the cd.
Peter Kaulback
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