Have you tried running Scandisk in the safe mode. All of the drivers
will be disabled and there should be no conficts. Besure that you are
using Scandskw if running under windows. The other is the pages in the
System.ini. The default is 4 and not entered as a line. You can add
the line
minSPs=16
directly under the [386Enh] section to increase the pages. I've found
that this has cleared a number of memory problems in the past.
The only other thing would be a corrupt Scandskw.exe file that could be
causing the error. Have no reason to suspect this as its a new
installation, but if you could get another copy from another source and
replace the orgional, this would remove yet another possible source.
Keith Thompson
"[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Clint Hamilton" wrote:
>
> No it's in the 'normal mode'. All periph's were in the orig.
> post, but since so many choose to <snip> orig. posts to
> death, all that gets lost. I pasted the orig. post below
> again (plus update). Yes, just the CD was used to format the
> first time. Haven't tried a LLF. Yes the drive & size is
> seen perfectly in all areas of windows (except recycle bin).
> Greg: Scandisk in DOS is fine, floppy is not protected (why
> would that matter?)
>
> Hi all, on a new PC for a customer here, I have something
> happening I've never seen before. I cannot run scandisk!
> when I try to run it, it says "not enough physical memory"!!!
> And NOTHING is running in the BG either! I have been
> searching for this problem and no surprise, all the links are
> bad at that idiot MS website! Using search engines all
> I have been able to find that is NOT about "quit programs
> running in the background...etc, etc" is for win95 and I
> don't understand it:
> ----------------------
> SYMPTOMS
> When you try to run ScanDisk, you may receive the following
> error message:
>
> Your computer does not have enough available memory to run
> ScanDisk now. Quit some running programs, then try running
> ScanDisk again.
>
> CAUSE
> This error can occur if system policies have been enabled on
> the computer, and the profile for the current user includes
> the "Hide Drives in My Computer" restriction.
>
> RESOLUTION
> The "Hide Drives in My Computer" restriction must be disabled
> before the current user can run ScanDisk. Contact your System
> Administrator, or have someone with the correct privileges
> log on to the computer and run ScanDisk.
> ----------------------
>
> I don't know what they are talking about there. Can
> anyone elaborate on that & tell me where this area
> is on win98 if at all? I have never seen it. I changed
> the memory settings in the BIOS and that didn't help.
> The pc shows the correct amount of RAM @ 128mb,
> and all resources are over 95%! At boot up there are
> 98% system resources available. I tried another stick of
> memory, and the same thing happens. Mobo is FIC
> SD11, 750mhz slot A Athlon & 128mb RAM, OS is
> win98 and it was just formatted. I HAVE used these
> mobo's before and never seen this problem with any
> of them. Scandisk will not even run in safe mode!
> Defrag also will not run. No yellow marks in the DM.
> Scandisk CAN be run in DOS OK. The PC works
> perfectly, all drivers were installed w/o a hitch, it seems
> totally normal in every other aspect! Other devices
> are a Diamond S100 PCI sound card, DLink PCI NIC,
> STB Nitro II AGP video card. The mobo's drivers
> off the CD were the first things installed. HD is
> western digital Caviar WD172AA, 17.2gb, UDMA 66,
> 2mb buffer. All components are new. "Power
> Management APM" is disabled in the BIOS. Have
> also tried manual memory settings, as well as auto
> by SPD.
>
> [addendum]
> The HD has been re-formatted using the windows SU
> disk, windows CD, and the WD format floppy with
> same results. Also does it RIGHT AFTER the
> windows install with NONE of the drivers yet installed.
> Regardless of format method used, cluster size is
> STILL 4096k! All cards have been removed leaving
> only the video card, same thing. Different video card
> used, same thing.
>
> I ran benchmarking programs; HD Tach, Sandra Pro, and
> FreshDiagnose, all were perfect. I've never ever had to
> manually set cluster sizes or anything for a HD for that
> matter, it's always done by "auto detect HD settings"
> in the BIOS. I tried a fixed size
> swap file @ 320mb, same thing. LBA is on, 32bit
> transfers, and FAT 32. I don't see anything in the AMI
> BIOS about the cluster size used. (Award DOES show
> cluster size though I THINK).
>
> The size of the HD is being shown correctly in 'my computer',
> 'msinfo', DOS, and everywhere else except of course for the
> recycle bin (which on EVERY win98 PC I have EVER seen, shows
> 1.99gb REGARDLESS of the size of the HD!!). On a new
> format, I installed Sandra Pro again, and it says the cluster
> size is 16k. Now I've never noticed cluster sizes before on
> any PC because it's NEVER been an issue before. So, if it
> must be 4096, then how or why did it get set to 16k?
> According to the link you sent, it states: "This issue can
> occur if you are running Windows on a hard disk that is
> larger than 8 gigabytes (GB) in size and has a cluster size
> LESS than 8 kilobytes (KB). This configuration may be created
> if you use a third-party disk tool to create a partition on a
> hard disk that is larger than 8 (GB) in size and has a
> cluster size less than 8 KB. " .........so that must not be
> the problem since it's set to 16k and no 3rd party software
> was used. ? According to the other text on that page, 16k is
> correct for a 17.2gb drive:
>
> Hard disk size Cluster size
> -------------------------------
> 16 GB and larger 16 KB
>
> Chkdsk was used after every format, to determine
> cluster size and it shows the cluster size ("allocation
> units") @ 4096K regardless.
>
> This statement is not correct:
>
> "The cluster size can be corrected by booting the computer
> with a Windows startup disk and reformatting the drive with
> the format program on the startup disk."
>
> I did that, and it still shows 4k cluster size for a 17.2gb
> HD. Something else odd, on MY pc, I have two 20gb ATA133
> drives on a RAID stripe (which is a total of only 20gb) and
> they have 32k clusters!
>
> Can't do a LLF, I run FDISK and it says: not a fixed
> drive present!!!
> -Clint
>
> God Bless Us All
> Clint Hamilton, Owner
> http://OrpheusComputing.com
> http://Computer-Hardware-Sales-Consumer-Electronics-Sales.com
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Fax: 775-254-3030
> TechAssist Administration
> http://tech-assist.org
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (alternates)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (PLEASE include our previous correspondence
> if replying to this email!!)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Kaulback" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 10:06 AM
> Subject: Re: Fw: PCWorks: "not enough memory to run scandisk"
> regardless
>
> Are you by chance running in "compatibility mode"?
> What cards are installed on the system?
> Have you tried installing with only the vid card installed?
> So you have used the WD disk to format the drive, the windows
> su disk to
> format the drive, have you used the win cd to format the
> drive? I know it's
> tedious but I had a similar event installing win2k between
> the su disk's
> and the cd.
>
> Peter Kaulback
>
> In the hour of 09:58 AM 4/14/2002 -0500,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -Clint Hamilton spoke this:
> >I went ahead and installed windows again anyway after
> >reformatting again using the SU disk, same thing!! STILL
> >cannot run scandisk!
> >-Clint
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Clint Hamilton"
> >
> >
> >I've use the floppy before with no problems. It is NOT the
> >new one that has all that garbage on it that screws a HD up
> >(it's v9.09).
> >
> >Well Greg, I used the windows SU disk to format the HD this
> >time and it STILL is showing 4096k cluster sizes!
> >
> > >>>From your other reply:
> >Use chkdsk, to determine cluster size ...
> >http://onlinehelp.bc.ca/tips.htm#scandisk
> >
> >I did that, and it shows the cluster size ("allocation
> >units") @ 4096K! So, I don't get it. Why does Sandra Pro
> >state 16k????
> >
> >I will reformat again using the windows SU disk as it
> >suggests and see what that does. I can't understand though
> >why I have never seen this problem before on 15gb, 18gb,
> 20gb
> > >>>or 45gb drives.
> >
> >What now? :-) Why am I having this problem now? I NEVER
> >have before with large HD's. How do I change the cluster
> >size to 16k? (If this is the consensus as to what is causing
> >the problem).
> >-Clint
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Peter Kaulback" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >Have you tried the WD install disk with other drives,
> perhaps
> >it is
> >corrupted. I try not to use vendor setup disc's anymore, too
> >many errors found.
> >
> >Peter Kaulback
> >
> >In the hour of 08:17 AM 4/14/2002 -0500,
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >-Clint Hamilton spoke this:
> >
> > >the problem since it's set to 16k and no 3rd party
> software
> > >was used. ? According to the other text on that page, 16k
> >is
> > >correct for a 17.2gb drive:
> > >
> > > Hard disk size Cluster size
> > > -------------------------------
> > > 16 GB and larger 16 KB
--
Keith Thompson, Worthington, OH
Home Web Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~kthompson/
Genealogy Web Page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~kthompson
Help Page: http://freepages.computers.rootsweb.com/~kthompson/
When all else is lost, the future still remains.
============= PCWorks Mailing List =================
Don't see your post? Check our posting guidelines &
make sure you've followed proper posting procedures,
http://pcworkers.com/rules.htm
Contact list owner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Unsubscribing and other changes: http://pcworkers.com
=====================================================
