Unless your ISP *DEFINITELY REQUIRES* RASPPPOE, and is not mandatory, no. RASPPPOE was written for win2k, but can also be used with win98, et al. Looks like it might be some proprietary PPPOE driver.
I never had to chose any "protocol". I'm no expert on this, but all I have to do (let's start with a fresh format) is install the NIC's drivers, and that's it. Nothing else, everything is already configured, I don't even have to make any changes in the Network Neighborhood. I enter my user and pass in my ROUTER's area*, ONCE, and never again. No "dial in number" (aka connection number) is needed. It is an "always on connection" just as a cable modem. I don't use a proxy server or connection. I CAN if I wanted, but I don't. The instant the desktop loads, I can click a link and be at that site immediately. That's why I HIGHLY recommend a router, even if you only have one PC. I can't remember exactly the steps for JUST using a NIC ALONE, but I think after installing the NIC's drivers, a few changes had to be made in the NW Neighborhood, and a thing or two has to be done in the "Internet settings" area of the control panel (win98) like dotting the button 'never dial a connection'. With a router, that ENTIRE area (connections tab in the internet settings) is grayed out, NOTHING has to be changed or added, it's all ok by default, and even though it's grayed out, if you look close that button IS dotted anyway. Like I said, it's not a number like a dialup number for a conventional dialup modem. It's just a string of characters that the modem of course must have in order to communicate with your ISP and get connected. I don't need one with a router. If you don't use a router, before you can get online, you have to click a shortcut for the dial up connection for your DSL the way you do with a dial up. Just instead of the PHONE number in that box, you have that character string. If you place it in your startup folder (a shortcut to that connection), all you need to do is hit [enter] when your desktop loads and the DUN window appears. If I remember correctly, the PPPOE (or whatever you select) is done with the NIC's DRIVERS. There is for example, usually a folder on the driver floppy for PPPOE, PPPOA, and a couple others. I've never used RASPPPOE, only PPPOE and PPPOErouter. Since Enternet 300 *CAN* be used with PPPOE if one desires, I would think, GUESS maybe that Ameritech can use PPPOE. *When you first get a gateway router, you enter it's IP in your address bar, then you 'connect' to it's firmware area, then enter your user, pass, and sometimes a few other things need to be added depending on your ISP, but that only has to be done one time. About win2k Pro, long story, but it was the little things, like not being able to run scandisk, 3 different "my documents" areas (so to speak) and not knowing which was which, why they were duplicated, etc. IE 5.5 (of which I HATE), Adaptec/Roxio problems, and for some reason even after 4 different reformats, constant crashes. The stability of win2k depends on what hardware you're using and how stable the win2k drivers are for them. I would guess the hardware I was using didn't like their respective win2k drivers. Check out the links I sent below, and also particularly this one http://www.dslreports.com/faq/amfaq/all#654 Looks like RASPPPOE is pretty good, uses no resources. -Clint God Bless Us All Clint Hamilton, Owner http://OrpheusComputing.com � ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Aronson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 23:56 6/18/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Contrary to some belief, Enternet 300 is rarely needed. It's >best NOT to use any software with DSL connections, and it is >usually not needed. It can also slow down the connection and >your PC (and suck up RAM and resources) since it will be >running in the BG all the time. During the BRIEF period I >tried win2k, I needed no software with it, (still using >win98). I have a DSL (external Ethernet Alcatel SpeedTouch >Home and PPPOE) via BellSouth and they will even tell you >Enternet 300 or similar is needed, and it is not. Now *you* >MIGHT have to use software, that would be dependent upon your >ISP, but it is rare that one MUST use it. First when you get >it, try it without any software. Just use the same area in >the DUN area and enter your new user, pass, "dial up number" >(still have to use one with DSL, although it's not a "phone >number" and you never have to dial it, it's a string that >must be entered). I don't even need to use any software for >networking and sharing the DSL line between several PC's (I >use a "gateway router", DI-704). > >Since I cannot speak for Ameritech, www.dslreports.com is a >GREAT place for ALL DSL info. Look for your ISP and go to >the forums and ask away. Those areas are full of experts. >http://www.dslreports.com/forum/ilec,am DO NOT go with a USB >modem, they are usually slower and cannot be networked like >an Ethernet DSL. Since the one you're getting is not, that's >good. I first used the Efficient Networks 4060 (USB) and >hated it. Then went with an internal 3com PCI, and loved it, >but couldn't network with it, so I then got the Alcatel. > >Regardless of which DSL you use, you must tweak it for best >results. I THINK with win2k you will NOT need any tweaking, >or very little since it's MTU and RWIN is pretty much >optimally set already......BUT, I DID try some tweaking with >win2k during the week I used it and it QUADRUPLED the speed, >so even though the DSL performance with win2k is much better >than win98, you can still improve upon it (win2k) immensely. >Dr.TCP is the easiest program to use, it's a free download >(see links at DSLreports) and is basically a GUI for all the >registry settings for your modem's performance. >-Clint > >God Bless Us All >Clint Hamilton, Owner >http://OrpheusComputing.com � >http://Computer-Hardware-Sales-Consumer-Electronics-Sales.co m > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Barry Aronson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "PCWorks mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 6:31 PM >Subject: PCWorks: RASPPPOE for DSL connection > > >Hello Listers! I had such an overwhelming response to my >post the other >day about the Win2K Pro ERD that I thought I would prevail >upon all you >DSLers, especially those who have SBC Ameritech to ask the >question; who >uses RASPPPOE instead of the Enternet 300 or other connection >software? Whomever does please contact me off-line as to the >effectiveness >of this free protocol download. > >I am having a DSL connected Saturday morning and would rather >use the >RASPPPOE than the Enternet 300 as it is supposed to be more >stable and >therefore less buggy. > >So I repeat, all those who meet that criteria please contact >me and give me >your opinions pro or con as well as a narrative regarding the >connection >initially and the trouble or not you had faced. Also if any >of you were >provided the Efficient Networks "Speed Stream 5360 Ethernet >ADSL Modem" I >would appreciate a short opinion as to how you like or >disliked it. > >Thank you in advance, > >Barry ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Clint! So are you saying that RASPPPOE is not even necessary for a DSL with Windows 2000 Pro? Or Windows98SE? You mean just create accounts and choose as the protocol PPPOE? What do you mean that the DSL needs a dialup number? I DO have a local dialup account free with the DSL. Aren't you supposed to tick the radio button "never dial this number" configuring an account for DSL? I'm a bit confused as to the additional things you said not the gist of the whole thing but the dialup part of it. Also do you or do you not have any familiarity with RASPPPOE or not? Ameritech will not support any protocol that is NOT Enternet 300, which I am adamant about not using. Why didn't you like Win2K Pro? I have found it to be the most stable OS next a Unix OS that I have ever used. Barry ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ============= PCWorks Mailing List ================= Don't see your post? 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