Yeah, like Peter said in his other post, if you sub to the M$
bulletins is one way.  One should avoid the update site since
contrary to what M$ says it does indeed scan your HD for
"personally identifiable information" and DOES send personal
info back to M$.  Or at least it did.  I can't find the URL on
that right now.  You can go to the update site to see what you
need, then block all with your firewall and then read the page.
It of course still just scanned your HD, but blocking net
access after that point is still a good idea.  Make a note of
the updates it "CLAIMS" you need, then you can look the updates
up at any search engine to find out if you really need them,
and download them.  (Jerks have the right click disabled there,
so you can't copy and paste the update #'s in the usual manner.
So, you have to highlight the update's # and text, then 'ctrl
C' to copy them then you can paste them into Notepad so you
won't have to type all of them).  You can also click the "read
more" links under each update to find out if you really need
the updates (that's usually under the links of "technical
details" I think or "mitigating factors" on the "read more"
pages) but that still leaves you on the update page.  It's ok
to d'load them from an M$ site, I'd just avoid getting the
downloads from the update site itself, for one; like I said it
really probes your PC, and another is you'll have the physical
downloads you can save from that point on to a CD for when you
reformat or if you have to reinstall them, or install on other
PC's, etc.

What concerns me most about the update site sending info back
to M$ (other than them lying about it) is receiving UCE from
parties that M$ will notify if they find their software on your
HD.  For example, if they find "software *AB*" on your HD they
may tell "Company *AB*" about it, and other companies
associated with "Company *AB*" and or "software *AB*" so they
can then harass you with related UCE from scanning your HD for
your email addresses.  I can't recall if they actually do THAT,
but I'm not going to chance it and I certainly would not put it
past them.
-Clint

Happy New Year to all & God Bless
Clint Hamilton, Owner
http://OrpheusComputing.com )

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dr. Rick Gillespie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Am I to understand that there arre sites where one get get XP
updates
without going through MS?
Rick



-----Original Message-----
From:  Peter Kaulback


One thing I like about 98 is that the user must allow a program
to run on
most occasions while with win2k and XP DCOM lets anything run
for you, M$
is in the habit of building software that optimally runs
perfectly for you
regardless of how much you like it :(

But the memory management of win98 is abhorred, same with it's
security
model, and it's dependence on DOS, though when the file system
heads south
it is much easier to deal with than when this happens on an
NTFS drive.
Driver control in 98 is hell while in XP it is so smooth

If you are legal with all of your software then there is little
to worry
about with regards to Microsoft. Many software vendors have
similar
processes from software activation to anonymous usage reports
to error
reports.

Remember MS is now pulling 98 out of support so if someone
finds a real
good exploit things could be interesting ... for 60% of the
installed MS
operating systems world wide, yes 98/98SE is very popular still
:)

Peter Kaulback


In the hour of 11:12 AM 12/30/2003, Dr. Rick Gillespie spoke
this:

>Good morning, all.
>
>I was researching Win XP info thinking that I might want to
upgrade from my
>current Win 98 OS when I stumbled upon the following
information.  After
>reading the following info I'm not so sure that I want XP.
Much of what is
>discussed is beyond my expertise but some of you might be
interested.  This
>reeks of "Big Brother is watching".  I think I'll stick to Win
98!
>Rick
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