Ahhh you know what? I bet that's the one thing I forgot to use when I
built this thing last year (it';s been like this for awhile). OMG it
makes perfect sense! I'll check it this weekend. Watch there be NO
grease because I forgot or something equally dumb of me :P

-J

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Keith Thompson
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 11:31 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PCWorks: Why does my PC shut off automatically?


Boy, that sounds like my first go round with my Athlon 1800+ chip.  I 
had a custom machine made and first thing I had to do was add a couple 
more case fans.  I still had heat problems and first they (the shop) 
told me that Athlons ALWAYS run hot.  I still encountered occasional 
shutdowns and started monitoring the chip temp with a software program. 
When doing an extended search, I could watch the temp go up to a point 
where I would discontinue the search and let the temp come back down.  
It finally failed completely so taking it back to the shop (under 
warrenty) they dissasembled the chip from the heat sink and found that 
there was no thermal grease between the two.  Your situation is sounding

much like what I experienced.  Even tho you have the extreme in coolers,

etc, if there is not sufficent or no thermal grease or epoxy connection,

the AMD chip will run with hot spots and cause the behavior that you are

describing.

Keith Thompson
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