----- Original Message ----- > From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <[email protected]> > To: IOhannes m zmoelnig <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 11:46 AM > Subject: Re: [PD-dev] removing path and libs from Pd-extended preferences GUI > > On Tue, 2011-09-20 at 09:31 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 2011-09-19 19:32, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >> > >> > Hey Miller, >> > >> > I actually think this would make switching between vanilla and > extended >> > easier because it would make people use [import] or [declare] to load >> > libs, then when using vanilla, you'll know which libraries the > patch >> > needs. Can you think of examples where it would make things more >> > difficult? >> >> so the idea is to have tons of error messages when using pd-vanilla, of >> the kind: "import zexy... couldn't create" so that the user > knows that >> they have to load the "zexy" library and henceforth ignore the > "import >> zexy" line and only check the remaining "import > foobar...couldn't create"? >> >> i seem to remember that there was a recent email saying that "a patch >> relying on an error" was not to be considered as correct. > > Either way, if you open a patch that uses zexy objects in Pd-vanilla, > there will be "...couldn't create" errors. Having [import zexy] > there > at least gives a place to focus on. Or if people are interested in more > portability, they are welcome to either use [declare] or "apt-get > install puredata-import"
A few questions: * What's the difference between [import foo] and [declare -lib foo]? Both seem to load the library into the patch's local namespace. * Isn't there an issue between loading a lib in the patch's local namespace and the way the setup routine works globally for a library? If I have Patch #1 [import iemguts] Patch #2 [sendcanvas] <- sendcanvas won't load, because its lib was only loaded for Patch #1 But if I have Patch #1 [import iemguts] [sendcanvas] Patch #2 [sendcanvas] <- this loads, because instantiating [sendcanvas] in Patch #1 loaded the lib globally Finally: * why did you develop [import] instead of improving [declare]? -Jonathan > > .hc > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-dev mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev > _______________________________________________ Pd-dev mailing list [email protected] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev
