On Oct 27, 2011, at 8:43 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote:
On Wed, 2011-10-26 at 13:12 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On Oct 26, 2011, at 4:39 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote:
* The symbol and number boxes are 2 px taller in Pd-extended than in
Pd-vanilla.
I think it is not possible to adjust one or the other without
breaking
backwards compatibility of the respective flavor. So either Pd-
vanilla
and Pd-extended will stay different for eternity or one of them
needs
to bite into the sour apple.
Since the latter only hurts once, I'd prefer to latter. And since
Pd-extended is a derivative of Pd-vanilla, I'd say it's Pd-extended
that has to bite into the sour apple. What do you think?
Pd-extended has been consistently sized since 0.39 and many people
rely on that. I'm pretty sure that Pd-vanilla did not get consistent
box sizes until 0.43, but I could be wrong. Here's some history on
that topic, its the wiki I used to organize the box sizing effort for
Pd-extended 0.39.
http://puredata.info/dev/GuiSizeDifferences
I checked again. It seems that at least since 0.36 number and symbol
boxes have been 3 px (sorry, I was the whole time wrong with 2px) less
tall than object boxes. It's Pd-extended who arbitrarily introduced to
make them the same size. Also making it number and symbol boxes
smaller
won't likely break any existing patches, but make them uglier.
Increasing the height will certainly break some GOP patches (as it
does
happen now when opening patches created in vanilla on extended).
See attached picture.
As far as I can see, it looks like objects and atom boxes were the
same size in 0.34. My point is not that Pd-extended has a consistent
size with any particular Pd-vanilla version. There were a lot of
variations in sizes between versions, forks, and platforms. Pd-
extended made the sizes the same for all Pd-extended versions on all
platforms.
.hc
* The fonts in Pd-vanilla look quite different across platforms. The
situation is much better in Pd-extended, especially when the
aliasing
issue on Mac OS X will be resolved.
The aliasing is actually a bugfix. Pd-extended uses Monaco, which is
a font designed to be not aliased. Previously Pd-extended was
scaling
it a bit, so it appeared aliased. Now it is no longer scaling the
Monaco font, so it appears in Pd-extended just like it would another
Cocoa app. Here's a pic of Pd-extended versus Apple TextEdit:
I see. Thanks for the info.
Roman
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