Actually, Sourceforge has been pretty evil in the past (like injecting installers with adware) and the new owners are still trying to recover from it. I guess Microsoft will be very careful not to mess up things with GitHub :-)
> Gesendet: Montag, 04. Juni 2018 um 10:35 Uhr > Von: "IOhannes m zmoelnig" <zmoel...@iem.at> > An: pd-dev@lists.iem.at > Betreff: Re: [PD-dev] Github being bought by MS > > On 2018-06-04 15:53, Dan Wilcox wrote: > > So MS is buying Github... good thing we still have the Sourceforge master > > repo. Any dev thoughts on moving forward? ie. "dump Github", "it's not a > > big deal", "let's find a self-host solution"... > > well. > > to start with, i never believed that GitHub was not "evil" per se. > from the beginning, they have been monopolizing a decentralized system > (git) for their own profit. > and since there service was outstanding (at least to many people new to > git), they did have success. > this success kindled a lot of things that were impossible beforehand, > starting from *very* easy collaboration that doesn't require technical > skills above an MA, to the integration of zillions of really useful > tools (CI, automatic code review,...) > but from a corporate POV, I don't see that much difference to Alphabet, > facebook or microsoft. > > as for sourceforge: i recently had to do things over their, and it was a > plain pain in the ass. > personally, i don't want to go back there. > (and from a corporate pov, again there is not much difference). > > i've been using GitLab for a while, and i'm pretty happy oftentimes. > but again, when using their hosted service, you are selling yourself to > a company, which - in the capitalistic world we live in - has only a > single primary goal: making money. > and nobody can guarantee that GitLab won't be acquired by... Oracle or > somesuch in the near future. > > so the only way to guarantee independence of the big players, is by > self-hosting services. > this of course means, that we are dependent on whoever does the > self-hosting. > > i've been running my own (free) instance of GitLab (for the iem) for a > few years now, and it's been fun. > recetnly i've been playing a lot with self-hosted CI with native support > for macOS and W32 builds. > however, even though we allow any user to log into our instance (e.g. to > submit bug-reports), we've decided that "external people" (neither > uni-staff nor uni-students) have some restrictions, namely they cannot > create their own repository. > mainly, because we do not have a big data-center where storage is not an > issue. > but this makes the instance a lot less attractive to casual > collaborators (and from the administrator's pov, i'm not really very > sorry about this...). > > one alternative would be to switch to use OSUOSL as a provider (as > jonathan suggested 3 years ago). > since this is a university, i figure that the chances are reasonable low > that they will be acquired by a corporation anytime soon (but then, it's > in the US, and i really don't know ;-)) > > another one might Joe's Texas connection. > > > so, to conclude: > i don't think we should jump the gun, just because EvilCorp acquired GitHub. > however, we might want to look for a self-hosted solution mid-term, that > is located in an appropriate data-center. > > fgmasdr > IOhannes > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-dev mailing list > Pd-dev@lists.iem.at > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev > _______________________________________________ Pd-dev mailing list Pd-dev@lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev
