I just checked the Pd-0.51-4test3 build and the scrollbars are still empty. Was 
Tk rebuilt with the new patches and a new Wish app also generated? If so, maybe 
it wasn't used to make the Pd .app?

> On Dec 19, 2020, at 10:55 AM, Dan Wilcox <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Oh and I forgot to note: This will require (re)building the Wish apps.
> 
>> On Dec 19, 2020, at 10:54 AM, Dan Wilcox <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> Howdy Miller,
>> 
>> I think the updates are ready to go, both in 
>> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1242 
>> <https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1242> and the develop branch 
>> which has a few things from IOhannes. In testing, it's working on systems 
>> from macOS 10.9 to 11.1.
>> 
>> It would be good to have a 0.51-4-test2 build from your system and we can 
>> ask people to try and compare with my macupdates2 build. Then we would know 
>> if there is a difference to how Tk works based on the build system.
>> 
>>> On Dec 15, 2020, at 11:32 PM, Dan Wilcox <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> macOS scrollbar fix is here, waiting on confirmation with a test build: 
>>> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1242 
>>> <https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1242>
>>> 
>>> Also, I have a new machine with macOS 11 and will do some checks that there 
>>> aren't any major issues with the Pd Tk / the GUI.
>>> 
>>> I could update the build system for mac arm64, but I think that can be done 
>>> more for a 0.52 release so we can have people get a chance to test out 
>>> universal2 builds (x86_64 & arm64). 
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 15, 2020, at 10:18 PM, Dan Wilcox <[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> Looks like we need a further patch for Tk 8.6.10 on macOS as the 
>>>> scrollbars aren't drawn: 
>>>> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/1237 
>>>> <https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/1237>
>>>> 
>>>> The Tk devs upstream have been busy but most of the work is in the dev 
>>>> branch. I can hopefully back port a fix for this as a further patch.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 15, 2020, at 7:14 PM, Miller Puckette <[email protected] 
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> OK, I merged it all in and am now seeing how all my builds fare.  Will
>>>>> probably put out test builds and let things stew for a day or 2.
>>>>> 
>>>>> cheers
>>>>> M
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 08:50:33PM +0100, Dan Wilcox wrote:
>>>>>> Howdy all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As quickly discussed on GitHub, there are a couple bugs which may 
>>>>>> warrant a 0.51-4 release.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In addition, here is a little list of things I think would be good fixes 
>>>>>> to have:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> windows: save-to-/tmp/foo.wav bug
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> networking & libpd: getaddrinfo() rejects dual stack socket settings on 
>>>>>> BSD and Android 
>>>>>> (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1232__;!!Mih3wA!W5o64S4wdV7Z7UCbDen1aq35AVLsZoZ9kRylfDe7xr3RSW0MzihH4JdqT2st$
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1232__;!!Mih3wA!W5o64S4wdV7Z7UCbDen1aq35AVLsZoZ9kRylfDe7xr3RSW0MzihH4JdqT2st$>
>>>>>>   
>>>>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1232__;!!Mih3wA!W5o64S4wdV7Z7UCbDen1aq35AVLsZoZ9kRylfDe7xr3RSW0MzihH4JdqT2st$
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1232__;!!Mih3wA!W5o64S4wdV7Z7UCbDen1aq35AVLsZoZ9kRylfDe7xr3RSW0MzihH4JdqT2st$>
>>>>>>  >)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> mac: update patch window size after configure 
>>>>>> (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1236__;!!Mih3wA!W5o64S4wdV7Z7UCbDen1aq35AVLsZoZ9kRylfDe7xr3RSW0MzihH4EFhOi5N$
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1236__;!!Mih3wA!W5o64S4wdV7Z7UCbDen1aq35AVLsZoZ9kRylfDe7xr3RSW0MzihH4EFhOi5N$>
>>>>>>   
>>>>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1236__;!!Mih3wA!W5o64S4wdV7Z7UCbDen1aq35AVLsZoZ9kRylfDe7xr3RSW0MzihH4EFhOi5N$
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1236__;!!Mih3wA!W5o64S4wdV7Z7UCbDen1aq35AVLsZoZ9kRylfDe7xr3RSW0MzihH4EFhOi5N$>
>>>>>>  >)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> multi-instance & libpd: set pd_this for readsf~ and writesf~ threads 
>>>>>> (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1227__;!!Mih3wA!W5o64S4wdV7Z7UCbDen1aq35AVLsZoZ9kRylfDe7xr3RSW0MzihH4GQxyMFT$
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1227__;!!Mih3wA!W5o64S4wdV7Z7UCbDen1aq35AVLsZoZ9kRylfDe7xr3RSW0MzihH4GQxyMFT$>
>>>>>>   
>>>>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1227__;!!Mih3wA!W5o64S4wdV7Z7UCbDen1aq35AVLsZoZ9kRylfDe7xr3RSW0MzihH4GQxyMFT$
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1227__;!!Mih3wA!W5o64S4wdV7Z7UCbDen1aq35AVLsZoZ9kRylfDe7xr3RSW0MzihH4GQxyMFT$>
>>>>>>  >)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> writesf~: fix infinite loop on I/O error 
>>>>>> (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1224__;!!Mih3wA!W5o64S4wdV7Z7UCbDen1aq35AVLsZoZ9kRylfDe7xr3RSW0MzihH4KCYImk7$
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1224__;!!Mih3wA!W5o64S4wdV7Z7UCbDen1aq35AVLsZoZ9kRylfDe7xr3RSW0MzihH4KCYImk7$>
>>>>>>   
>>>>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1224__;!!Mih3wA!W5o64S4wdV7Z7UCbDen1aq35AVLsZoZ9kRylfDe7xr3RSW0MzihH4KCYImk7$
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1224__;!!Mih3wA!W5o64S4wdV7Z7UCbDen1aq35AVLsZoZ9kRylfDe7xr3RSW0MzihH4KCYImk7$>
>>>>>>  >)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> mac: add back-ported patch for Tk 8.6.10 which fixes disabled Help menu 
>>>>>> items 
>>>>>> (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1226__;!!Mih3wA!W5o64S4wdV7Z7UCbDen1aq35AVLsZoZ9kRylfDe7xr3RSW0MzihH4DTPxVNa$
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1226__;!!Mih3wA!W5o64S4wdV7Z7UCbDen1aq35AVLsZoZ9kRylfDe7xr3RSW0MzihH4DTPxVNa$>
>>>>>>   
>>>>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1226__;!!Mih3wA!W5o64S4wdV7Z7UCbDen1aq35AVLsZoZ9kRylfDe7xr3RSW0MzihH4DTPxVNa$
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1226__;!!Mih3wA!W5o64S4wdV7Z7UCbDen1aq35AVLsZoZ9kRylfDe7xr3RSW0MzihH4DTPxVNa$>
>>>>>>  >), note: requires re-building and packaging Wish.app in mac/stuff
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --------
>>>>>> Dan Wilcox
>>>>>> @danomatika 
>>>>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://twitter.com/danomatika__;!!Mih3wA!W5o64S4wdV7Z7UCbDen1aq35AVLsZoZ9kRylfDe7xr3RSW0MzihH4NAK4TmC$
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://twitter.com/danomatika__;!!Mih3wA!W5o64S4wdV7Z7UCbDen1aq35AVLsZoZ9kRylfDe7xr3RSW0MzihH4NAK4TmC$>
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> 
>>>>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://danomatika.com/__;!!Mih3wA!W5o64S4wdV7Z7UCbDen1aq35AVLsZoZ9kRylfDe7xr3RSW0MzihH4O0FMrL7$
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://danomatika.com/__;!!Mih3wA!W5o64S4wdV7Z7UCbDen1aq35AVLsZoZ9kRylfDe7xr3RSW0MzihH4O0FMrL7$>
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/> 
>>>>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://robotcowboy.com/__;!!Mih3wA!W5o64S4wdV7Z7UCbDen1aq35AVLsZoZ9kRylfDe7xr3RSW0MzihH4MT_Vl_y$
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://robotcowboy.com/__;!!Mih3wA!W5o64S4wdV7Z7UCbDen1aq35AVLsZoZ9kRylfDe7xr3RSW0MzihH4MT_Vl_y$>
>>>>>>  >
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --------
>>>> Dan Wilcox
>>>> @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika>
>>>> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/>
>>>> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> --------
>>> Dan Wilcox
>>> @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika>
>>> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/>
>>> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> --------
>> Dan Wilcox
>> @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika>
>> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/>
>> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> --------
> Dan Wilcox
> @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika>
> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/>
> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>
> 
> 
> 

--------
Dan Wilcox
@danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika>
danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/>
robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>



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