My current behavior (for better or worse) is to get to a point where I
think 'master' is stable and
has "enough" changes to warrant going through a release cycle. Then I
go through PRs and bug
reports, fixing what I can and adopting whatever looks like it won't
slow me down too much. (I
really should read all the PRs line by line but if I tried to do that
there would never be another release
again). This often takes a week or so.
Then I start putting out 'test releases' which is my invitation to the
whole world to find whatever
problems they can. That phase typically lasts a month or so, but I can
leave things in that state as
long as necessary for everyone to have a look and make sure their
patches are happy and/or even
look over the code to their satisfaction. If anyone tells me to please
hold off making the "stable"
release because they need more time I'll generally be happy to do that.
I have to think more about whether it makes sense to make a branch where
PRs get merged before
I have time to thoroughly vet them. It sounds like it would speed
things up, but as you've probably
figured out I care more about having the best design we can get to than
getting there faster (and
possibly getting stuck having to stay compatible with a bad initial
choice. See [timer] :)
cheers
Miller
On 5/17/25 9:26 PM, Christof Ressi wrote:
Hi Miller,
On 17.05.2025 18:33, Miller Puckette via Pd-dev wrote:
As always, once I think there's enough new stuff to warrant getting a
release out I start putting out 'test' versions (which I announce).
But yes, I'd like to get a release out in a month or so if I can.
Good to know!
With "announce" I didn't mean the official (test-)release
announcements, but rather an announcement on the dev list about an
upcoming release. I think last time you actually did this. I was just
surprised to find out with a random comment on GitHub. Just keep in
mind that some of us have jobs, kids, projects, etc. and we need to
plan ahead if we should participate in preparing PRs, testing and
bugfixing.
That being said, one month is not too bad. When I read your comment
("P.S. I think this is the only blocking issue for Pd 0.56"), I
thought the release was just round the corner. I also thought that you
don't want to include any more PRs, which I hope is not the case :)
Side note: we have already discussed this a few times, but it would be
*really* great if we could review/merge PRs on a more regular basis.
Ideally, feature PRs would get merged in a dedicated branch, so that
we can still make bugfix releases from the master branch.
---
I will use this occasion to point out that it has been almost 2 years
since the introduction of multi-channel processing and it is still far
from complete. Here are some PRs of mine that would implement some
missing multi-channel capabilities:
[readsf~]/[writesf~]:
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/2052__;!!Mih3wA!AosF2_0EN2I6d3TilTd_4PR2ZWDaUmXRv7uOw-VJC9POJIHHcp1xtiONcIz3vvXmTA-5AkMYDGJ3XA$
[delwrite~]/[delread~]:
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/2049__;!!Mih3wA!AosF2_0EN2I6d3TilTd_4PR2ZWDaUmXRv7uOw-VJC9POJIHHcp1xtiONcIz3vvXmTA-5AkNslXljgA$
table objects:
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/2058__;!!Mih3wA!AosF2_0EN2I6d3TilTd_4PR2ZWDaUmXRv7uOw-VJC9POJIHHcp1xtiONcIz3vvXmTA-5AkM5VhV5gw$
[print~]/[snapshot~]/[sig~]:
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1978__;!!Mih3wA!AosF2_0EN2I6d3TilTd_4PR2ZWDaUmXRv7uOw-VJC9POJIHHcp1xtiONcIz3vvXmTA-5AkO5TKuKZQ$
This PRs are all complete and tested. They just need to be reviewed
and merged (or rejected :)
Of course, I would be great to also add some badly needed [snake~]
methods, see
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/1996__;!!Mih3wA!AosF2_0EN2I6d3TilTd_4PR2ZWDaUmXRv7uOw-VJC9POJIHHcp1xtiONcIz3vvXmTA-5AkN0q5FHlg$
, but I guess we have to postpone this to Pd 0.57?
---
Finally, there are some other PRs of mine that might be considered:
- new API function pd_findclassbyname():
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/2535__;!!Mih3wA!AosF2_0EN2I6d3TilTd_4PR2ZWDaUmXRv7uOw-VJC9POJIHHcp1xtiONcIz3vvXmTA-5AkOzzOrJjg$
- implement missing perform8 methods in d_math:
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/2497__;!!Mih3wA!AosF2_0EN2I6d3TilTd_4PR2ZWDaUmXRv7uOw-VJC9POJIHHcp1xtiONcIz3vvXmTA-5AkM-jJw9Vw$
- new API functions for thread-safe messaging:
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/2303__;!!Mih3wA!AosF2_0EN2I6d3TilTd_4PR2ZWDaUmXRv7uOw-VJC9POJIHHcp1xtiONcIz3vvXmTA-5AkM5a9-4-w$
- [print]: specify log level and target object:
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/2228__;!!Mih3wA!AosF2_0EN2I6d3TilTd_4PR2ZWDaUmXRv7uOw-VJC9POJIHHcp1xtiONcIz3vvXmTA-5AkNt3I070A$
- [readsf~]: add third outlet for soundfile info:
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/2206__;!!Mih3wA!AosF2_0EN2I6d3TilTd_4PR2ZWDaUmXRv7uOw-VJC9POJIHHcp1xtiONcIz3vvXmTA-5AkMNpI8d-A$
- signal comparison/logical operators (with multichannel support):
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/2054__;!!Mih3wA!AosF2_0EN2I6d3TilTd_4PR2ZWDaUmXRv7uOw-VJC9POJIHHcp1xtiONcIz3vvXmTA-5AkNQav8mWg$
- [clone] improvements:
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/2053__;!!Mih3wA!AosF2_0EN2I6d3TilTd_4PR2ZWDaUmXRv7uOw-VJC9POJIHHcp1xtiONcIz3vvXmTA-5AkNUVVZspg$
- [poly] improvements:
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/661__;!!Mih3wA!AosF2_0EN2I6d3TilTd_4PR2ZWDaUmXRv7uOw-VJC9POJIHHcp1xtiONcIz3vvXmTA-5AkM__FD5rQ$
Cheers,
Christof
cheers
Miller
On 5/17/25 5:25 PM, Christof Ressi wrote:
Hi,
Miller's comment in
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/2514*issuecomment-2888313583__;Iw!!Mih3wA!HIbZVIgvUOouOp60p_JiYJGYDJ4yteqWzV9V8G93gegZ_9AlywoF4Q_uLcyHufuGxOtVn5WwfNqHdw$
suggests that Pd 0.56 will be release soon? Is this true? If yes,
have I missed the announcement?
Cheers,
Christof
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