works like a charm now. ... and i think nearly everyone who posted in this thread was hitting on some good idea. the only one i didn't follow up was the [hilbert~] one, and that was what i needed to eliminate the need for the freqshift~ external.
cheers everyone. now i can go on to part 2 of that tutorial and make some snare drums using different methods. (revised patch attached to this mail)
kicksnare~.pd
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