Ok, my guess is that it's a bug in the Apple-included Tcl/Tk. Everything works fine on PowerPc. So I am trying ActiveTcl 8.4.14, which is a universal binary.

Give the 2006-12-12 build a shot and see what happens. (hopefully it builds sucessfully tonight).

.hc


On Dec 7, 2006, at 3:50 PM, Steffen wrote:


On 07/12/2006, at 1.51, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

Try again tomorrow (2006-12-07).

It seams the same. Fx. it doesn't open patches, neither from the help-browser (that does open) or the file browser (that also does open). There come no output when clicking the DIO button. It eats +/-55% cpu time, normally Pd eats 10-15 % if it doesn't do anything.

Attached is the output i get when launching the nightly builds from Terminal with Verbose enabled and -stderr as the startup flag - both set via the prefs panel. By ignoring the "verbose" output it boils down to: "audio I/O stuck... closing audio".

That leads me to a question/observation. It seam that the "debugging" method of starting Pd form Terminal with the -stderr flag does not help and does not give the same output as if the - stderr flag is set via the prefs panel.

When -stderr is not set in the pref panel, 'Pd -stderr' and 'Pd' executed from Terminal result in the same output, which is sent to the Terminal window. When -stderr is set in the pref panel, 'Pd -stderr' and 'Pd' executed from Terminal also result in the same output, which is sent to the Pd window.

Not only is the output sent to different places it is also not the same. And the info of the one is a subset of the other, which is when -stderr was set in the prefs panel. Hence my conclusion is that, If the -stderr flag are to be of any use, it is to be set via the pref panel?

I have two more "observations". The fist being that when one shut this nightly build, it doesn't shut completely. When launched there are two processes 'Pd-0.39.2-extended-2006-12-07' and 'pd'. When closed only the Pd-0.39.2-extended-2006-12-07 gets shot, while the other is very much alive (and eating cpu all it can).

The other observation is that the this intel build bundle has intel build external (zexy/sum.pd_darwin are fx intel build (only)) while fx. Pd-0.39.2-extended-2006-12-07.app/Contents/MacOS/Pd-0.39.2- extended-2006-12-07 is a socalled universal binary build. Further more, the ppc counterpart has ppc build externals (again, fx. zexy/ sum.pd_darwin) and ppc build (not universal build) Pd-0.39.2- extended-2006-12-07 binary.


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