On 02/02/2007, at 13.35, paco + reme wrote:

thanks Derek, Steffen
i have installed pd-0.39.2 and i´m starting to read help : html & browser (pd run ok)

in Users/<myrusername>/Library/Preferences/pure data is the file "org.puredata.pd.plist"

Yes, thats the one. Good.

but i´m thinking pd 0.39 extended package have more resourses, patches, libraries, abstract...
in a folder for PD, for example for sound files, etc.
In the begining i installed pd 0.40.2 (21 mb) no extended, and after pd 0.39.2 (91 mb). I don´t find difference
I´m confused, excuse-me

That is totally ok. I've been likely confused for quite a while.

You can do two things to see the difference.

The fist being what Derek suggested: Ctrl-click the Pd-blah.app and choose "Show Packages Contents". You can do that for all .app bundles. That opens a new Finder window, the navigate to the extra folder. If you do that for both the extended version and Millers version you'll see a difference.

The "same" difference can be viewed though the help browser - the second method. When you open the help browser you'll notice more content in the fist column - "examples/" and "manuals/ for example. That is one pice of evidence.

The more interesting is, if you navigate to "5.reference/", click on it, the second column of the help browser will show much more then it does in Millers version. From this part of the help browser you'll see so called help patches for both the internal (vanilla) Pd object (as you will se in the same section of the help browser of Millers version) and external objects and abstractions. Then many fist items in that second column is folders (as the once on the first columns) that you can click, and get a third column. The name of these reflect the name of the external / lib or abstraction that is shipped into Pd- extended.

But there is more in there - still in the second column, that you got by clicking "5.reference/". If you scroll futher down you'll see some items names "all-about-<topic>". They come from PDDP (Pure Data Documentation Project) and serve as more information on what you can do with Pd - organized per topic. As oposit to the info you get from 2.control.examples/, 3.audio.examples/ and 4.data.structures/ this info is not limited to cover internal objects.

PDDP is more that that though. I suregets to go through the tutorial in "manuals/0.Intro" which to my knowledge also is a product of PDDP, as does "1.Sound/", "2.Image", "3.Networking" and "4.Physical/" - all from the "manuals/" section of the help browser.

Hope this helps.

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